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Post by louisec432 on May 12, 2023 1:01:24 GMT -8
I kept refreshing the page, 5 times over the next 40 mins it offered the option to select the number of tickets but then each time couldn't fulfil my request. Page now says sold out, absolutely gutted.
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Post by pete on May 12, 2023 2:18:56 GMT -8
Sounds like it was an absolute clusterf**k.
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Post by andylgr on May 12, 2023 4:29:33 GMT -8
Well I managed to bag one with some mark up from The Ticket Room, although I still paid around what a stadium show ticket would cost. But I weighed it up and tbh this show is IMO worth more than a standard stadium gig.
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Post by andylgr on May 12, 2023 5:08:25 GMT -8
If I hadn't managed to get a ticket though the one consolation that I had resigned myself to was that no one would be missing the show because of the livestream. Sounds like it was an absolute clusterf**k. Demand from fans (and probably bots) looks to have far outweighed what was available. Theres no guarantee that the whole venues capacity was released either, especially if they gave tickets to press or family.
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Post by hysteriauk on May 12, 2023 5:12:59 GMT -8
Well I managed to bag one with some mark up from The Ticket Room, although I still paid around what a stadium show ticket would cost. But I weighed it up and tbh this show is IMO worth more than a standard stadium gig. Well done !!. Be interesting how many in the forum have tickets for next week.
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Post by csirron on May 12, 2023 5:25:24 GMT -8
Still on the search for a ticket
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Post by diva on May 12, 2023 6:38:54 GMT -8
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Post by andylgr on May 12, 2023 7:03:44 GMT -8
There we go, tickets saved over for a competition, how many more havent been released to general sale?
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Post by cool1987 on May 12, 2023 8:07:32 GMT -8
The fact people now have to buy tickets from a ticket reselling websites will be what most fans hate about this experience, firstly not standing a cat in hells chance of going because bots are buying up the tickets on pre-sales and general sales and then flogging them at double price, as if we don't pay enough for tickets already.
Touts and bots are ruining this for fans and i don't think people should accept being forced into paying above the odds because scalpers, touts and bots somehow managed to get tickets when we all like mugs were trying like normal people on the ticket website.
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Post by pete on May 12, 2023 9:58:15 GMT -8
Why are they available in other places?
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Post by andylgr on May 12, 2023 11:17:02 GMT -8
Why are they available in other places? They’re ticket reselling sites who’ve bought them and put them back up for sale.
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Post by pete on May 12, 2023 12:09:17 GMT -8
Why are they available in other places? They’re ticket reselling sites who’ve bought them and put them back up for sale. That’s disgusting.
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Post by andylgr on May 12, 2023 12:27:19 GMT -8
The fact people now have to buy tickets from a ticket reselling websites will be what most fans hate about this experience, firstly not standing a cat in hells chance of going because bots are buying up the tickets on pre-sales and general sales and then flogging them at double price, as if we don't pay enough for tickets already. Touts and bots are ruining this for fans and i don't think people should accept being forced into paying above the odds because scalpers, touts and bots somehow managed to get tickets when we all like mugs were trying like normal people on the ticket website. I’ve seen plenty of genuine fans on social media saying they got tickets as well, so some did get through.
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Post by cool1987 on May 12, 2023 13:14:36 GMT -8
The fact people now have to buy tickets from a ticket reselling websites will be what most fans hate about this experience, firstly not standing a cat in hells chance of going because bots are buying up the tickets on pre-sales and general sales and then flogging them at double price, as if we don't pay enough for tickets already. Touts and bots are ruining this for fans and i don't think people should accept being forced into paying above the odds because scalpers, touts and bots somehow managed to get tickets when we all like mugs were trying like normal people on the ticket website. I’ve seen plenty of genuine fans on social media saying they got tickets as well, so some did get through. I don't think plenty of genuine fans got tickets. I've seen the opposite on both Facebook threads (Def Leppard and Leadmill) are full of people who never stood a fair chance and the touts and resellers mysteriously got their hands on tickets we should have paid £71 for, now selling for £150, £200 each. It's not supposed to be how much money someone has or willing to be squeezed for by people who shouldn't have tickets in the first place. Something is very wrong about how this has been done, if tickets are allocated randomly how did touts and resellers get them to flog for more than double the price.
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Post by pooley on May 12, 2023 13:54:04 GMT -8
I managed to get tickets through sheer luck. I'm as surprised as anyone. I'm used to ticket buying fiascos for football and I think ticketing in general for all big events, whether music, sport etc has been entirely ruined by the online age. The Internet is obviously great but this is one big downside. I do think a fair few fans have got tickets for this though and more than it appears. Firstly, I'm not shouting from the rafters about it personally because I don't want to rub people's noses in it if they haven't. I'd imagine others may be the same. Secondly, just the numbers and probability with only 850 capacity and thousands trying will mean that a much larger percentage will have been unsuccessful and more visible online than thosr who did manage to get a ticket. Personally I think all tickets should have been available for pre-sale and not capped. At least that way more people who bought the album would have had a chance. So yes, in summary a sh*tshow but ticketing for popular events nearly always is and it's part of a wider problem imo.
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Post by edwardcreighton on May 12, 2023 14:49:22 GMT -8
Imagine lot of tickets given to the band as well as it's a hometown show. Local media as well. Venue only does 850. Sometimes needs must, secondary tickets available for 150 pounds, about the same as Golden Circle for Bramall gig, club gig likely better memory for fans.
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Post by andylgr on May 12, 2023 22:46:38 GMT -8
Theres no way they've made the full 850 available for fans. I base that purely on my experience at the London 2008 SFTSL launch, which was in an 800 capacity venue. There they gave the upstairs balcony areas over to media / family and the downstairs floor to fans. I believe it will be similar for the Leadmill, some to fans, some to media, some to family. This is also a big promo event for the band, not just a regular show.
As Neil said, for a gig that thousands wanted to go, where theres less than 850 tickets available then its automatically going to mean that there are many more disappointed fans than happy ones. So yes the threads on twitter and facebook for the show are full of people saying they couldn't get tickets, but keep digging through and there are also lots of posts from fans who managed to get through, either by constantly refreshing the page or by sheer luck in being picked out by the see tickets automated process straight away.
In scrolling through some of the Leadmill threads on twitter I saw that there are scalpers offering to buy tickets from fans, maybe they weren't as successful in getting them during the sale as we may think. On the flip side I haven't seen that many popping up on the reselling sites, some are, but not in the amounts that may be suggested or believed. For the ones I got, the online ticket site had bought 4 in presale and were selling them for double the price. I saw them around an hour after the presale started and I grabbed one straight away. Its worth a stadium ticket cost to me, but equally I get that others wouldn't go that far to get one. The worst I've seen is from actual fans online openly posting on the bands official threads, who are also going to the Bramall Lane show, who managed to get tickets for The Leadmill too and are selling the Leadmill tickets for £200 each.
Its also worth noting that there is also a ticket re-selling site called twickets that re-sells tickets at face value and they had a handful for the show too, which sold quickly.
Overall though this is sadly no different to any event these days, but what highlights this more is the limited availability in the first place, you will always get people wanting to make money off it because they know there are fans willing to pay that much because these types of shows are so rare.
Its a problem not limited to a Def Leppard Leadmill show. But to me, measures to protect against things like this would be to make it illegal to mark up tickets online from face value and also to make them photo ID events, so the tickets are allocated to you personally. But even then you're still going to get a load of fans disappointed because there was more demand than tickets for this show, but at least you know you're not competing against scalpers as well as genuine fans too.
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Post by cal on May 13, 2023 6:56:40 GMT -8
Why are they available in other places? They’re ticket reselling sites who’ve bought them and put them back up for sale. I can't believe that is legal (except, sigh, yes I can).
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Post by andylgr on May 13, 2023 7:36:47 GMT -8
They’re ticket reselling sites who’ve bought them and put them back up for sale. I can't believe that is legal (except, sigh, yes I can). There’s the problem it’s legal. But there really aren’t that many online at inflated prices right now.
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Post by CindyJ on May 13, 2023 17:25:25 GMT -8
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Post by CindyJ on May 14, 2023 10:59:20 GMT -8
Listening to Planet Rock. Just heard that tickets for The Leadmill show will be given away all week.
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Post by andylgr on May 14, 2023 11:53:15 GMT -8
Listening to Planet Rock. Just heard that tickets for The Leadmill show will be given away all week. More tickets held back then.
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Post by pete on May 14, 2023 22:13:24 GMT -8
Listening to Planet Rock. Just heard that tickets for The Leadmill show will be given away all week. More tickets held back then. So really when they say there are 850 tickets available what they really mean is there are 700 tickets available to buy and 150 held back for family, friends, competitions etc.
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Post by andylgr on May 14, 2023 23:41:10 GMT -8
More tickets held back then. So really when they say there are 850 tickets available what they really mean is there are 700 tickets available to buy and 150 held back for family, friends, competitions etc. I don't think they ever released a figure, but the assumption seems to have been made that the whole capacity was going to be available for sale. Supposedly a couple of tickets for the show appeared on Twickets over the weekend (they sell tickets at face value). They were gone pretty quickly though.
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Post by CindyJ on May 17, 2023 6:10:23 GMT -8
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Post by CindyJ on May 17, 2023 11:17:39 GMT -8
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Post by CindyJ on May 17, 2023 12:44:55 GMT -8
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Post by tsmith on May 17, 2023 15:28:20 GMT -8
So what are thoughts about a potential setlist for this show? We think they'll throw any deep cuts into this?
I mean, surely the whole crowd of people should basically be die-hard Leppard fans in theory. And surely people who are willing to plop down money to watch remotely are also pretty good fans. Do they take that into consideration and play a few deeper gems? Or perhaps something new from Diamond Star Halos? Or maybe some of the deeper tracks from Drastic Symphonies since they're kind of promoting that album? GOW, Turn to Dust, Paper Sun, TLFL?
I kind of think in a 60 minute set that there probably won't be room for more than a couple deeper type songs. And I know this is basically a warm up for the tour so they won't go too crazy and play like a Def Flatbird set or something lol.
I just hope they take into consideration that there probably aren't going to be all that many super-casual fans indulging in this.
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Post by deffu2 on May 17, 2023 15:43:39 GMT -8
Any fan at this show would love a deep cut. I wish the band would throw caution to the wind and play a totally deep cuts set. Won't happen but I dare to dream. Looking forward to it, got my streaming ticket. Get some beer, relax and watch whatever comes our way. Enjoy kids!!!!
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Post by DesertSun81 on May 17, 2023 16:19:40 GMT -8
So what are thoughts about a potential setlist for this show? We think they'll throw any deep cuts into this? I mean, surely the whole crowd of people should basically be die-hard Leppard fans in theory. And surely people who are willing to plop down money to watch remotely are also pretty good fans. Do they take that into consideration and play a few deeper gems? Or perhaps something new from Diamond Star Halos? Or maybe some of the deeper tracks from Drastic Symphonies since they're kind of promoting that album? GOW, Turn to Dust, Paper Sun, TLFL? I kind of think in a 60 minute set that there probably won't be room for more than a couple deeper type songs. And I know this is basically a warm up for the tour so they won't go too crazy and play like a Def Flatbird set or something lol. I just hope they take into consideration that there probably aren't going to be all that many super-casual fans indulging in this. With a venue this small and many diehard fans buying streaming tickets they definitely have more freedom to play something deeper at a show like this and they absolutely should add at least a song or two of any of the above you just mentioned keeping the audience they are catering to in mind. I’m really excited and grateful to catch this show in some capacity but it would be a shame if it’s a 60 minute set of only the hits. Thinking about where they are at in general with resurgence there shouldn’t be any show that goes by where they are not playing at least 3-4 deeper/more obscure songs at a show… especially if you look around and see what some of their peers are doing with their setlists.
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