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Post by tonym132 on Jun 16, 2022 20:39:41 GMT -8
I am surprised and impressed that they played four from the new album. And all four of the singles, no album tracks. (This Guitar isn't a single yet but it's going to be soon, right?) I predicted they'd play U Rok Mi since that would sound awesome in a big live show, but looks like I was wrong so far.
I am fine with no Rock On, but I am not fine with no Let's Get Rocked! As you all know, not only was it a huge hit when it was a new song, it has been used as an encore and even as the closing song for many years! Have they ever taken a long time encore/closing song out of the setlist before? I never thought I'd see the day Let's Get Rocked gets left out of a full show... Sad to me. On the flip side, being a big fan of Adrenalize, I am happy to see that HYENSSB made the set. Was it the full song or just an abbreviated acoustic version? Stand Up remains the number one song that deserves to be worked into their set in my opinion, but that's another topic...
I hope Excitable doesn't go on through this entire tour. It is my least favorite track from Hysteria, but obviously someone in or around the band likes it quite a bit, since they started playing it regularly in 2019 if I recall. It seems like a pure travesty to me to waste time on Excitable and not play Let's Get Rocked. How much variance in the set do you all think they'll have across this tour? Very little like usual, or maybe some more this go round? I have a hunch they might be ready to mix it up more than in the recent past, and I'm rooting for that anyway.
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Post by sugarme on Jun 16, 2022 21:07:53 GMT -8
Agreed. Not a fan of Excitable. Ugh. Also would prefer to hear something other than This Guitar. Thrilled to hear the new singles. Similarly happy not to see Rick On on the set list. Guess we’ll see how it evolves.
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Post by tsmith on Jun 17, 2022 2:42:17 GMT -8
Agree. That 2 song run definitely jumps out at me as the weak spot in the set for bathroom breaks and chicken fingers lol. I think something like Gods of War would be way better in that Excitable slot as I feel like that would be a great song to roll into after Love Bites. Or a song like Let's Get Rocked would also work great there as that seems like a glaring omission to me and it would likely be much more of a crowd pleaser than Excitable IMO. And while its tough complaining about a new song, I'd rather see just about any other ballad they've done instead of This Guitar being its easily my least favorite song on the new album. It's probably fine though if they just play a portion of it as part of a medley. The band looks and sounds great though! Agreed. Not a fan of Excitable. Ugh. Also would prefer to hear something other than This Guitar. Thrilled to hear the new singles. Similarly happy not to see Rick On on the set list. Guess we’ll see how it evolves.
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Post by CindyJ on Jun 17, 2022 6:38:11 GMT -8
Seeing a few complaints on Twitter about the omission of LGR.
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Post by rsebastyan on Jun 17, 2022 7:29:38 GMT -8
Seeing a few complaints on Twitter about the omission of LGR. Can’t please everyone!
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Post by treffo on Jun 17, 2022 7:37:47 GMT -8
Seeing a few complaints on Twitter about the omission of LGR. Can’t please everyone! Complaining about a single song missing, for once, seems like a big joke compared to what others (incl me) feel.
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Post by wabowarrior on Jun 17, 2022 18:25:43 GMT -8
Seeing a few complaints on Twitter about the omission of LGR. Can’t please everyone! When you have a catalog the size of Def Leppard, with the number of legit chart and radio hits they have had, it is impossible to do everything and make everyone happy. I'm a big fan of Adrenalize, but I have tons of respect that they decided to put four new songs in the set, when they easily could have done one and put three hits in there.
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Post by tonym132 on Jun 18, 2022 0:55:32 GMT -8
When you have a catalog the size of Def Leppard, with the number of legit chart and radio hits they have had, it is impossible to do everything and make everyone happy. I'm a big fan of Adrenalize, but I have tons of respect that they decided to put four new songs in the set, when they easily could have done one and put three hits in there. Of course you can't please everyone or play the same songs all the time, but there also have to be some songs which are "untouchable", which will always be played in a full show no matter what. I had long believed that Leppard had six such untouchable songs: Photograph, Rock of Ages, Pour Some Sugar, Hysteria, Love Bites, and Let's Get Rocked. Now all of a sudden, Let's Get Rocked is not untouchable anymore. It was for a long time. Which of those other five songs from my short mental list will be the next to be left out of a show??
Let's Get Rocked was used as an encore song for a long time. As recently as the Sparkle Lounge tour, it was the final song played at most shows. In the last 30 years, has there ever been a song used regularly as an encore which was later dropped from the set? I haven't researched it, but I really doubt it, can't imagine what it could be. And besides often being an encore, Let's Get Rocked was also played in every full show they performed since it was a new song 30 years ago, wasn't it? There can't have ever before been a song dropped from their set which was part of every single show for that long.
If anyone knows better on those two points, please correct me. But if I'm right, this is the first time that a long-time encore song has ever been eliminated from the set altogether, and this is also the first time a song which has been in every show for 30 years has ever been dropped from the set. So this is not just a popular song being left out in a reshuffle to keep the set fresh and work in new material. This is unprecedented. I think fans should be complaining.
At least they're still playing my favorite, Hysteria. The day they play a full show without Hysteria... is the day I get off the Def Leppard bus. Luckily, I think the band members personally love that song too (heard Rick Allen recently say it is his current favorite), and they just created a new live ending for it, so I don't think that's got much chance of happening.
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Post by andylgr on Jun 18, 2022 2:18:06 GMT -8
I've created this thread so that it takes the 2022 setlist debate away from the individual show pages, otherwise comments will get lost within those very easily.
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Post by tsmith on Jun 18, 2022 4:39:45 GMT -8
I think I almost surprise myself by saying this as I'm generally a huge proponent of changing up the set but I agree here. Let's Get Rocked is one of their big tunes IMO and it always seems to be a crowd pleaser when played live. I hate removing a deeper cut like Excitable but if I had to pick between LGR or Excitable in the set, I'd easily pick LGR. Of course there are plenty of other songs I'd pick besides either of those if I could though! Like Wasted for example! I guess at the end of the day, I'd either rather see a better deep cut than Excitable or if not, then just toss LGR back in. It's a pretty good set overall though and love seeing TWYW, Fire It Up and Kick in the set. When you have a catalog the size of Def Leppard, with the number of legit chart and radio hits they have had, it is impossible to do everything and make everyone happy. I'm a big fan of Adrenalize, but I have tons of respect that they decided to put four new songs in the set, when they easily could have done one and put three hits in there. Of course you can't please everyone or play the same songs all the time, but there also have to be some songs which are "untouchable", which will always be played in a full show no matter what. I had long believed that Leppard had six such untouchable songs: Photograph, Rock of Ages, Pour Some Sugar, Hysteria, Love Bites, and Let's Get Rocked. Now all of a sudden, Let's Get Rocked is not untouchable anymore. It was for a long time. Which of those other five songs from my short mental list will be the next to be left out of a show?? Let's Get Rocked was used as an encore song for a long time. As recently as the Sparkle Lounge tour, it was the final song played at most shows. In the last 30 years, has there ever been a song used regularly as an encore which was later dropped from the set? I haven't researched it, but I really doubt it, can't imagine what it could be. And besides often being an encore, Let's Get Rocked was also played in every full show they performed since it was a new song 30 years ago, wasn't it? There can't have ever before been a song dropped from their set which was part of every single show for that long.
If anyone knows better on those two points, please correct me. But if I'm right, this is the first time that a long-time encore song has ever been eliminated from the set altogether, and this is also the first time a song which has been in every show for 30 years has ever been dropped from the set. So this is not just a popular song being left out in a reshuffle to keep the set fresh and work in new material. This is unprecedented. I think fans should be complaining.
At least they're still playing my favorite, Hysteria. The day they play a full show without Hysteria... is the day I get off the Def Leppard bus. Luckily, I think the band members personally love that song too (heard Rick Allen recently say it is his current favorite), and they just created a new live ending for it, so I don't think that's got much chance of happening.
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Post by edwardcreighton on Jun 18, 2022 4:51:40 GMT -8
Exciteable great addition to set, live my funky Lepps. Fantastic to see the band push new material in such a confident way, truly found their swagger again.
Yes, a surprise not playing LGR, but most on this forum have wanted the setlist to be shaken up a bit. At some point LGR will return.
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Post by diva on Jun 18, 2022 5:09:27 GMT -8
I’m all for playing the new music. We were all worried this could just be a greatest hits tour because of the time limits. Bring on the new music!
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Post by andylgr on Jun 18, 2022 6:51:24 GMT -8
When you have a catalog the size of Def Leppard, with the number of legit chart and radio hits they have had, it is impossible to do everything and make everyone happy. I'm a big fan of Adrenalize, but I have tons of respect that they decided to put four new songs in the set, when they easily could have done one and put three hits in there. Of course you can't please everyone or play the same songs all the time, but there also have to be some songs which are "untouchable", which will always be played in a full show no matter what. I had long believed that Leppard had six such untouchable songs: Photograph, Rock of Ages, Pour Some Sugar, Hysteria, Love Bites, and Let's Get Rocked. Now all of a sudden, Let's Get Rocked is not untouchable anymore. It was for a long time. Which of those other five songs from my short mental list will be the next to be left out of a show?? Let's Get Rocked was used as an encore song for a long time. As recently as the Sparkle Lounge tour, it was the final song played at most shows. In the last 30 years, has there ever been a song used regularly as an encore which was later dropped from the set? I haven't researched it, but I really doubt it, can't imagine what it could be. And besides often being an encore, Let's Get Rocked was also played in every full show they performed since it was a new song 30 years ago, wasn't it? There can't have ever before been a song dropped from their set which was part of every single show for that long.
If anyone knows better on those two points, please correct me. But if I'm right, this is the first time that a long-time encore song has ever been eliminated from the set altogether, and this is also the first time a song which has been in every show for 30 years has ever been dropped from the set. So this is not just a popular song being left out in a reshuffle to keep the set fresh and work in new material. This is unprecedented. I think fans should be complaining.
At least they're still playing my favorite, Hysteria. The day they play a full show without Hysteria... is the day I get off the Def Leppard bus. Luckily, I think the band members personally love that song too (heard Rick Allen recently say it is his current favorite), and they just created a new live ending for it, so I don't think that's got much chance of happening. For the record LGR and Photograph were rotated on the Adrenalize tour when it became the Neverending Weekend tour in 1993. LGR was dropped entirely for the 2007 Downstage Tour in the US. ROA was dropped for the UK leg of the Mirror Ball tour in 2011.They're probably the 2 biggest song omissions IMO. When you look back at the bands tour history its fairly clear that pretty much the big 6 singles from Hysteria are untouchable along with Photograph & ROA and for me I'd throw LGR and WLAHC in to the mix too. Which adds another dynamic to it because some songs are untouchable in certain regions and not in others. Theres no way can they play a show in the UK without Animal, LGR and WLHAC IMO because they are their biggest singles. Whereas WLAHC means nothing in the US. But you could probably swap that for TSB in North America, they always play it. But back on topic to the stadium tour, they know this tour has to contain a lot of the hits as well as a few new ones because of the nature of the tour (new album promotion and a big festival type event). So out of 18 you've already got the 6 singles from Hysteria, 2 from Pyro and 4 new songs, that only leaves 6 spots to play with. One of them has to be a break for Joe, which automatically means Switch 625 comes in, which by default brings in BOTH too, so now we only have 4 free spots. If they're playing 4 new songs I don't see any way in which they're bringing in other obscure rare tracks as the new songs already cover that, because they're unfamiliar to most of the crowd. Add TSB in to the mix as a set regular and we're already down to 3 extra spots (currently taken up by Excitable, Foolin & HYENSSB). I'm going to predict that HYENSSB is going to remain as part of an acoustic thrust section, like the last Vegas residency. But I do think it leaves 2 spots free in the set to rotate around.
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Post by dflp83 on Jun 18, 2022 7:04:58 GMT -8
No offense here..but 7 off Hysteria to me is overkill..more than half of the album.
But I do feel this change up helps, without question however, the Hysteria album.
And why not sub from hysteria and replace with Too Late for Love?
Rob
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Post by DesertSun81 on Jun 18, 2022 7:50:03 GMT -8
There have been so many discussions (and frustrations) on this and other forums over the years about the set. There was a time period where it had become static and for lack of a better term stale.
There's probably a few small things we'd all have changed about set #1, however if you had told us all in 2011 that we'd be sitting here in 2022 talking about a stadium tour where they fit 4 new songs and a couple more obscure ones (and that absolutely awesome finish to HYSTERIA!) into an 18 song 90 minute set I think all of us collectively would've been ecstatic. There could be a number of factors all converging here whether it's a resurgence in popularity, people within or close to the band who they are listening to, their own realizations on what makes a well balanced set, or maybe all of the above, however it's really impressive when you stop to think about where we are compared to where we've been.
It remains to be seen how the set will evolve in the coming weeks (or how it may even change tonight depending on the monsoon they played through in Atlanta), however the main additional thing I'd like to see is utilizing those couple of flex spots to rotate in and out some of their best songs they are not playing. EXCITABLE could be rotated out with songs like LGR, LET IT GO, TLFL, PROMISES, MIRROR MIRROR etc. ADRENALIZE turned 30 this year and it's awesome they found a spot for HYENSSB, however can another track from that album find a temporary spot somewhere? TONIGHT would be awesome in that acoustic set (although it did not chart nearly as well as HAVE YOU EVER which may disqualify it). TEAR IT DOWN? WHITE LIGHTNING would be incredible however unlikely in a 90 minute set.
My main hope is they realize the vast number of options they have and actively incorporate them. Looking forward to seeing how the set looks tonight.
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Post by diva on Jun 18, 2022 7:57:59 GMT -8
Vivian hates Tear it Down so I doubt they’ll play it.
Both Sav and Joe aren’t fans of LGR either.
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Post by Armageddonit on Jun 18, 2022 8:01:11 GMT -8
Vivian hates Tear it Down so I doubt they’ll play it. Both Sav and Joe aren’t fans of LGR either. Tear It Down isn't great IMO. I'd listen to Excitable all day before LGR. LGR was cheesy and out of place in 92'and I was a 14 yr old kid at the time
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Post by diva on Jun 18, 2022 8:05:32 GMT -8
I love the original TID.
I’m good with GoW, DHTH, Stagefright, RRTYD, TLFL, HnD, LIG, LaA, BGAG.
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Post by DesertSun81 on Jun 18, 2022 8:13:50 GMT -8
That is probably exactly why TEAR IT DOWN hasn't been played in 30ish years. I wouldn't mind TID - however my post is more referring to simply acknowledging somewhere in the set that ADRENALIZE is 30. WHITE LIGHTNING and STAND UP would be my first choices to hear however that's most likely a pipe dream. My honest opinion on LGR is it doesn't translate as well live as most of their other hits, however it's one of those songs that pull on the nostalgia strings and it was one of their biggest hits so I can understand why people are looking for it in the set. With that said I agree if there were any big hit that was expendable in the set it's that one (which the band seems to agree with as it was absent Thursday night). I think they've felt like they've had to represent ADRENALIZE somewhere in the set over the years and that song has usually been the obvious choice. I wouldn't be upset if/when we see the song again however I can take it or leave it personally. It's MLLAM that needs to stay away for good. Vivian hates Tear it Down so I doubt they’ll play it. Both Sav and Joe aren’t fans of LGR either.
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Post by diva on Jun 18, 2022 8:30:32 GMT -8
That is probably exactly why TEAR IT DOWN hasn't been played in 30ish years. I wouldn't mind TID - however my post is more referring to simply acknowledging somewhere in the set that ADRENALIZE is 30. WHITE LIGHTNING and STAND UP would be my first choices to hear however that's most likely a pipe dream. My honest opinion on LGR is it doesn't translate as well live as most of their other hits, however it's one of those songs that pull on the nostalgia strings and it was one of their biggest hits so I can understand why people are looking for it in the set. With that said I agree if there were any big hit that was expendable in the set it's that one (which the band seems to agree with as it was absent Thursday night). I think they've felt like they've had to represent ADRENALIZE somewhere in the set over the years and that song has usually been the obvious choice. I wouldn't be upset if/when we see the song again however I can take it or leave it personally. It's MLLAM that needs to stay away for good. Vivian hates Tear it Down so I doubt they’ll play it. Both Sav and Joe aren’t fans of LGR either. MLLAM should never be played again. Lol LGR always goes over well live. I’m not a fan of the Adrenalize album. But it’s been 30 years so it does need to be recognized.
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Post by wabowarrior on Jun 18, 2022 11:22:37 GMT -8
We all know that songs like Sugar, Love Bites, Hysteria, Animal are rarely, if ever, going to be dropped. The fact that Photograph and ROA have occasionally been left out of a setlist is amazing when you think about how identifiable those tunes are. Having too many hits isn't a bad problem to have, but it does make setlist construction difficult, especially for those of us that are fans of their whole catalog.
However, Metallica just played two shows.... and didn't play Nothing Else Matters at either.
Anything is possible friends, anything is possible.
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Post by tsmith on Jun 18, 2022 11:30:04 GMT -8
Really a great point... If they're playing a deep cut, it should be something from Adrenalize instead of Excitable. And agree....no MLLAM! It'll be interesting to see if this set sticks or if changes happen. It generally seems that they stay pretty locked into things once a tour starts as I'm sure timing and production plays a big part in it all and not always easy to just swap songs. That is probably exactly why TEAR IT DOWN hasn't been played in 30ish years. I wouldn't mind TID - however my post is more referring to simply acknowledging somewhere in the set that ADRENALIZE is 30. WHITE LIGHTNING and STAND UP would be my first choices to hear however that's most likely a pipe dream. My honest opinion on LGR is it doesn't translate as well live as most of their other hits, however it's one of those songs that pull on the nostalgia strings and it was one of their biggest hits so I can understand why people are looking for it in the set. With that said I agree if there were any big hit that was expendable in the set it's that one (which the band seems to agree with as it was absent Thursday night). I think they've felt like they've had to represent ADRENALIZE somewhere in the set over the years and that song has usually been the obvious choice. I wouldn't be upset if/when we see the song again however I can take it or leave it personally. It's MLLAM that needs to stay away for good. Vivian hates Tear it Down so I doubt they’ll play it. Both Sav and Joe aren’t fans of LGR either.
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Post by paul1982 on Jun 18, 2022 12:35:53 GMT -8
Complaining about a single song missing, for once, seems like a big joke compared to what others (incl me) feel. Which is what? Not being funny I just don’t know what you’re referring to
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Post by Jefflep on Jun 18, 2022 12:37:59 GMT -8
I don’t know if anyone had pointed this out or not, but MLLAM in todays culture, maybe hasn’t aged as well. While not my favorite, I don’t mind it. Kinda like The Rolling Stones left Brown sugar out. They’re not overly fussed about it.
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Post by pooley on Jun 18, 2022 14:29:51 GMT -8
Entirely a personal perspective of someone who has seen them a lot of times, but I don't think any one song is undroppable (I think I've just invented a new word!) That's simply because they have so many hits and big songs. Therefore, you can drop one of any of the obvious setlist staples and that can be negated by the fact there's at least another 5 or 6 to paper over that crack.
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Post by treffo on Jun 18, 2022 14:39:04 GMT -8
Complaining about a single song missing, for once, seems like a big joke compared to what others (incl me) feel. Which is what? Not being funny I just don’t know what you’re referring to I quoted a post stating that some people are wining because Let's Get Rocked (for once) is out of the set. They're just really spoiled. I have a lot of songs I would've love to hear sometimes or at least once (not every time). But not much luck for us who love the epic, heavier, deeper or more rocking stuff. I hope I understood your question correctly. :-)
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Post by treffo on Jun 18, 2022 14:40:33 GMT -8
Entirely a personal perspective of someone who has seen them a lot of times, but I don't think any one song is undroppable (I think I've just invented a new word!) That's simply because they have so many hits and big songs. Therefore, you can drop one of any of the obvious setlist staples and that can be negated by the fact there's at least another 5 or 6 to paper over that crack. Spot on!!
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Post by dflp83 on Jun 18, 2022 15:20:37 GMT -8
LOL...why they re-recorded Tear it Down on adrenalize!!..ugh..and Sirius radio plays the adrenalize version only!..grrrr..
I'm content with the songs today on tour..but mix it up more this summer...please.
Rob
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Post by wabowarrior on Jun 18, 2022 15:24:00 GMT -8
Entirely a personal perspective of someone who has seen them a lot of times, but I don't think any one song is undroppable (I think I've just invented a new word!) That's simply because they have so many hits and big songs. Therefore, you can drop one of any of the obvious setlist staples and that can be negated by the fact there's at least another 5 or 6 to paper over that crack. Spot on!! I can't see them every dropping Sugar. If there are 10,000 fans in the crowd, they all know it, they all love it (well, most).... and while some might be hearing it for the 20th time, there are going to be those fans who are seeing them for the first and only time. It's the same reason the Stones play Satisfaction. If we're talking an advertised headline gig (not a club show or something intimate), Sugar is probably the one track they can't paper over with other songs.
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Post by paul1982 on Jun 18, 2022 22:52:51 GMT -8
Which is what? Not being funny I just don’t know what you’re referring to I quoted a post stating that some people are wining because Let's Get Rocked (for once) is out of the set. They're just really spoiled. I have a lot of songs I would've love to hear sometimes or at least once (not every time). But not much luck for us who love the epic, heavier, deeper or more rocking stuff. I hope I understood your question correctly. :-) Yeah you did, thanks, I’m of the same mindset!
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