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Post by Dan on Apr 20, 2022 16:25:31 GMT -8
I feel like these songs have some attention to detail that maybe hasn't been there as much the past couple albums. And we've certainly seen more put into promotion, artwork, etc. It's like they feel like they have something special here. Given the artwork produced for the singles so far I love to get CD copies. Throw some live tracks or covers on there even if they've already been released. It'd feel like an event. At least for me it would. I know for collectiblity vinyl singles would be more likely. So far this album seems to have an energy I'm loving. |
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Post by andylgr on Apr 20, 2022 23:10:00 GMT -8
I feel like these songs have some attention to detail that maybe hasn't been there as much the past couple albums. And we've certainly seen more put into promotion, artwork, etc. It's like they feel like they have something special here. Given the artwork produced for the singles so far I love to get CD copies. Throw some live tracks or covers on there even if they've already been released. It'd feel like an event. At least for me it would. I know for collectiblity vinyl singles would be more likely. So far this album seems to have an energy I'm loving. I miss the days of singles being released physically. |
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Post by CindyJ on Apr 22, 2022 6:41:36 GMT -8
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Post by Dan on Apr 22, 2022 6:51:11 GMT -8
Looks like it's for the UK folks only. Lucky bunch.
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Post by edwardcreighton on Apr 23, 2022 5:02:52 GMT -8
marketing of new material has been superb. imagine next couple of weeks lots of interviews will pop up. third single. in north america have people who bought tickets for the tour had emails encouraging them to buy album?
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Post by CindyJ on Apr 25, 2022 9:29:58 GMT -8
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Post by andylgr on Apr 25, 2022 10:40:12 GMT -8
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Post by treffo on Apr 27, 2022 9:42:48 GMT -8
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Post by tsmith on Apr 27, 2022 10:25:54 GMT -8
Still bummed Viv wasn't more involved in the song writing/creation but hopefully his guitar playing rings throughout the album. Cool hearing the comments about Viv's playing on the Krauss tunes. For me, those tunes are going to need some heavy "Leppardization" to win me over as I'm not keen on the idea of Krauss singing. I'll need some cool guitar work and some big Leppard harmonies and backing vocals on those tunes for them to work. |
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Post by Dan on May 3, 2022 7:57:46 GMT -8
I love the fact this album is on the way and can’t wait for the release day.
I think it’s interesting how we’ve changed as fans. I remember back in the 2002-04 period when talk of outside song writing collaborations were not readily accepted. Maybe the X album spooked some fans? Phil did more than a single song with CJ Vanston based on early 2000’s interviews. This is the first I know of that we’ll get to hear anything they wrote together. Plus, there was the talk of just releasing EPs because ‘album releases are dead.’ To me things felt adrift and not so bright.
Now for DSH I don’t recall anyone commenting negatively on working with outside writers. We’re just happy to get (great!) new music. A full album at that! We also know there is more writing/recording underway, so the future is looking good. I agree with Viv in one of his interviews when he says that the DSH physical release is like a throwback in style. I look forward to examining the details of the artwork. It’s intricate. I don’t recall the last time I’ve felt that.
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Post by tsmith on May 3, 2022 8:29:56 GMT -8
Fantastic points and agree. What you point out is exactly how I felt lol. I know for X, I was almost insulted that they were resorting to outside writers and it tainted my thoughts on the album before even hearing it. It basically started a bit of a downward trend for me. And then I wasn't enamored with the whole Yeah period. I mean, we went from a fairly poppy album with outside writers on X to a covers album? And then even Sparkle didn't end up overly exciting me and it's probably my least favorite studio album of original material. I found myself during that period mostly diving into live bootlegs that relived the glory days as the current music outlook felt kind of stale. There's absolutely a new energy here though. And I'm welcoming the outside writing. Like you say, I'm just happy to have new music and it's got to be a little tougher after 40+ years to come up with fresh ideas so if outside writers can provide that inspiration and energy, it's all good with me. I do feel like (at least based on the two songs so far) that going back to their roots and inspiration has maybe naturally led them to a bit of a throwback Leppard style. I was a little nervous at first as I honestly don't care for most of their influences so I don't want them trying to sound like them. But I think when Leppard is on their game so to speak, they have a way of pulling the best parts of those influences and creating something that is distinctly Def Leppard. And that's what I feel like they've done with the 2 songs so far. There's just a different vibe going with DSH and everything feels "bigger" than it's felt in a long time. Now I'm hoping the album follows suit and that it isn't all just good marketing  But I absolutely love both songs so far and in my head I'm already feeling like this album legitimately has a shot to be my favorite album since Adrenalize. We'll see but exciting times for sure. And hopefully their newfound way of writing and recording yields more new music faster than 6-7 years! I love the fact this album is on the way and can’t wait for the release day. I think it’s interesting how we’ve changed as fans. I remember back in the 2002-04 period when talk of outside song writing collaborations were not readily accepted. Maybe the X album spooked some fans? Phil did more than a single song with CJ Vanston based on early 2000’s interviews. This is the first I know of that we’ll get to hear anything they wrote together. Plus, there was the talk of just releasing EPs because ‘album releases are dead.’ To me things felt adrift and not so bright. Now for DSH I don’t recall anyone commenting negatively on working with outside writers. We’re just happy to get (great!) new music. A full album at that! We also know there is more writing/recording underway, so the future is looking good. I agree with Viv in one of his interviews when he says that the DSH physical release is like a throwback in style. I look forward to examining the details of the artwork. It’s intricate. I don’t recall the last time I’ve felt that. |
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Post by TurnToDust86 on May 3, 2022 9:12:11 GMT -8
I love the fact this album is on the way and can’t wait for the release day. I think it’s interesting how we’ve changed as fans. I remember back in the 2002-04 period when talk of outside song writing collaborations were not readily accepted. Maybe the X album spooked some fans? Phil did more than a single song with CJ Vanston based on early 2000’s interviews. This is the first I know of that we’ll get to hear anything they wrote together. Plus, there was the talk of just releasing EPs because ‘album releases are dead.’ To me things felt adrift and not so bright. Now for DSH I don’t recall anyone commenting negatively on working with outside writers. We’re just happy to get (great!) new music. A full album at that! We also know there is more writing/recording underway, so the future is looking good. I agree with Viv in one of his interviews when he says that the DSH physical release is like a throwback in style. I look forward to examining the details of the artwork. It’s intricate. I don’t recall the last time I’ve felt that. Some of us may have just kept some thoughts to ourselves.  I'm not crazy about outside writers specifically when there is one prominent member of the band that has zero credits on the album. I'd much rather see songs credited to Collen/Campbell than Collen/stranger. But again, it is what it is and I'm just happy to be getting this album. And I think the main issue with outside writers during the X era was the songs solely written by outside writers. Co-writers was/is nothing new thanks to Lange/Woodroffe/etc. I didn't mind the songs co-written with Marti Frederiksen and those three were among my favorites on X. We've gotten a taste of a Phil/Vanston song as those two are credited for "It's All About Believin'." |
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Post by Armageddonit on May 3, 2022 9:25:25 GMT -8
I love the fact this album is on the way and can’t wait for the release day. I think it’s interesting how we’ve changed as fans. I remember back in the 2002-04 period when talk of outside song writing collaborations were not readily accepted. Maybe the X album spooked some fans? Phil did more than a single song with CJ Vanston based on early 2000’s interviews. This is the first I know of that we’ll get to hear anything they wrote together. Plus, there was the talk of just releasing EPs because ‘album releases are dead.’ To me things felt adrift and not so bright. Now for DSH I don’t recall anyone commenting negatively on working with outside writers. We’re just happy to get (great!) new music. A full album at that! We also know there is more writing/recording underway, so the future is looking good. I agree with Viv in one of his interviews when he says that the DSH physical release is like a throwback in style. I look forward to examining the details of the artwork. It’s intricate. I don’t recall the last time I’ve felt that. Some of us may have just kept some thoughts to ourselves. I'm not crazy about outside writers specifically when there is one prominent member of the band that has zero credits on the album. I'd much rather see songs credited to Collen/Campbell than Collen/stranger. But again, it is what it is and I'm just happy to be getting this album. And I think the main issue with outside writers during the X era was the songs solely written by outside writers. Co-writers was/is nothing new thanks to Lange/Woodroffe/etc. I didn't mind the songs co-written with Marti Frederiksen and those three were among my favorites on X. We've gotten a taste of a Phil/Vanston song as those two are credited for "It's All About Believin'." Agreed, although I'm not certain if there is ever been a Collen/Campbell composition. They strike me as completely different kinds of writers and players especially these days. Viv has really gone back to his heavier rock roots and it seems like that's where his writing headspace could be as well. It does seem like he brings complete song ideas to the band when he does have something. |
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Post by Dan on May 3, 2022 10:01:34 GMT -8
We've gotten a taste of a Phil/Vanston song as those two are credited for "It's All About Believin'." I'd forgotten about who had written that one. I can also agree about co-writer vs written by someone else completely. It's an important distinction. |
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Post by DesertSun81 on May 3, 2022 14:42:02 GMT -8
This is an interesting event they have planned. Hope a few from this forum win the opportunity to listen early. Got my entry in!  Dolby Atmos playback of Diamond Star Halos competitionDOLBY ATMOS PLAYBACK OF DIAMOND STAR HALOS COMPETITION On Monday 23rd of May, fans are invited to experience Diamond Star Halos in a playback of the entire album in Dolby Atmos sound. Pre-order Def Leppard’s forthcoming album, ‘Diamond Star Halos’, on any format on uDiscover before 10am BST on Monday 16th May to be in with a chance of winning an exclusive invite to the Diamond Star Halos Album Playback in partnership with Dolby on Monday 23rd May.  |
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Post by Armageddonit on May 3, 2022 15:29:27 GMT -8
This is an interesting event they have planned. Hope a few from this forum win the opportunity to listen early. Got my entry in! Dolby Atmos playback of Diamond Star Halos competitionDOLBY ATMOS PLAYBACK OF DIAMOND STAR HALOS COMPETITION On Monday 23rd of May, fans are invited to experience Diamond Star Halos in a playback of the entire album in Dolby Atmos sound. Pre-order Def Leppard’s forthcoming album, ‘Diamond Star Halos’, on any format on uDiscover before 10am BST on Monday 16th May to be in with a chance of winning an exclusive invite to the Diamond Star Halos Album Playback in partnership with Dolby on Monday 23rd May. Very cool, looks like UK only. |
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Post by DesertSun81 on May 3, 2022 15:39:26 GMT -8
Saw this advertised via Def Leppard's Facebook page and just noticed the UK only in the fine print. When entering it does ask for what country you are in but makes no mention of your exclusion if not in the UK. Well that will narrow it down quite a bit - hopefully some of you on this forum in the UK get in on this! This is an interesting event they have planned. Hope a few from this forum win the opportunity to listen early. Got my entry in! Dolby Atmos playback of Diamond Star Halos competitionDOLBY ATMOS PLAYBACK OF DIAMOND STAR HALOS COMPETITION On Monday 23rd of May, fans are invited to experience Diamond Star Halos in a playback of the entire album in Dolby Atmos sound. Pre-order Def Leppard’s forthcoming album, ‘Diamond Star Halos’, on any format on uDiscover before 10am BST on Monday 16th May to be in with a chance of winning an exclusive invite to the Diamond Star Halos Album Playback in partnership with Dolby on Monday 23rd May. Very cool, looks like UK only. |
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Post by andylgr on May 3, 2022 21:24:03 GMT -8
This is an interesting event they have planned. Hope a few from this forum win the opportunity to listen early. Got my entry in! Dolby Atmos playback of Diamond Star Halos competitionDOLBY ATMOS PLAYBACK OF DIAMOND STAR HALOS COMPETITION On Monday 23rd of May, fans are invited to experience Diamond Star Halos in a playback of the entire album in Dolby Atmos sound. Pre-order Def Leppard’s forthcoming album, ‘Diamond Star Halos’, on any format on uDiscover before 10am BST on Monday 16th May to be in with a chance of winning an exclusive invite to the Diamond Star Halos Album Playback in partnership with Dolby on Monday 23rd May. I’ve already ordered my copies of the album, but you don’t need to buy more to enter this. It says there are 3 playback options, so maybe at different locations around the country? Later on in the process it says there are only 180 tickets. More info here: store.udiscovermusic.com/*/Def-Leppard-Diamond-Star-Halos-Competition/Pre-order Def Leppard's forthcoming album, 'Diamond Star Halos', on any format on uDiscover before 10am BST on Monday 16th May to be in with a chance of winning an exclusive invite to the Diamond Star Halos Album Playback in partnership with Dolby on Monday 23rd May.
Orders must be placed before 10am BST on Monday 16th May for your chance to win. If you have already pre-ordered the album before 12pm Tuesday 3rd May via uDiscover you can enter via this link
There will be 3 Diamond Star Halos Album Playback sessions on Monday 23rd May. Winners will be notified no later than Tuesday 17th May and will need to RSVP for entry.
No purchase necessary. UK only excl. Northern Ireland. Entrants must be over 18 to enter. One entry per person. Terms & Conditions apply. |
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Post by quarky on May 4, 2022 4:44:24 GMT -8
Sounds awesome, entered. I will let you guys know what it is like when I win  |
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Post by tsmith on May 4, 2022 6:40:09 GMT -8
As I listen and read all the various articles, I can't help but think that the way this album was recorded might have had a significant impact on the result. I mean, it just sounds like the guys really had more time to work on songs and get things the way they wanted being that they could all be working at once as opposed to all working in a limited time frame of a recording session or something. In theory, it would've been nothing for possibly say Viv to work on a guitar solo for a few days and to experiment with it and get it just right. Would he had done that for song on the last album when they're at Joe's place for a few weeks or whatever to record? The same concept could really apply throughout this album.
I think one of my biggest criticisms overall of the more recent albums is just I've felt a level of detail has been missing. It's hard to put a finger on exactly what that is but it's just little things here and there....interesting guitar riffs, melodic touches, a hook here or there, an extra verse or bridge possibly feeling like it was needed, etc.
In the first two songs though, I've felt like that level of detail is back and I think that's really what has me most excited.
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Post by quarky on May 4, 2022 13:10:36 GMT -8
This is reminding me more and more of Slang. Not musically, but I think in the potential diversity of the songs. While Slang pushed boundaries while trying to be anchored in grunge/90s, this might have similar amounts of diversity while still remaining largely a Def Leppard style album, but still pushing boundaries.
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2022 9:39:30 GMT -8
I keep seeing that DSH is the 12th album by Def Leppard. I'd love to understand the album number accounting. X was named as it was because it was the 10th album I think I remember hearing at the time. That works if you include the Vault package and exclude the EP as not a full album. Or mix that about as you will. Since X we've had 2 studio albums, a covers album, and another GH package. Counting the second GH package once since Best of.. and Rock of Ages were originally for different markets. It could easily be claimed DHS is the 14th or 15th album/release. It makes a fans head spin.
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Post by DesertSun81 on May 5, 2022 9:55:20 GMT -8
12 can definitely be a misleading number as there's plenty they've released around those 12, however I believe it's factoring in all full albums of original material and omitting YEAH, the live albums, the box sets, deluxe re-issues and the best of albums. If you do that (and incorporate RETRO ACTIVE which is technically a full album of original material minus ACTION) you do have DSH as #12. This number does however omit 4 original songs (WLAHC, UNDEFEATED, KOTW and IAAB), B-sides from the various box sets/deluxe re-issues and the original EP. Someone can fact check me but I think that's accurate. I keep seeing that DSH is the 12th album by Def Leppard. I'd love to understand the album number accounting. X was named as it was because it was the 10th album I think I remember hearing at the time. That works if you include the Vault package and exclude the EP as not a full album. Or mix that about as you will. Since X we've had 2 studio albums, a covers album, and another GH package. Counting the second GH package once since Best of.. and Rock of Ages were originally for different markets. It could easily be claimed DHS is the 14th or 15th album/release. It makes a fans head spin. |
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Post by TurnToDust86 on May 5, 2022 10:28:22 GMT -8
I think this is what they’re counting:
1. OTTN
2. HND
3. Pyromania
4. Hysteria
5. Adrenalize
6. Slang
7. Euphoria
8. X
9. Yeah
10. SFTSL
11. Def Leppard
12. Diamond Star Halos
Retro seems to be viewed as a compilation whereas Yeah was newly recorded so I guess that makes it a studio album.
Personally I’d consider Retro an album over Yeah. I had no idea Retro was mostly old stuff when I got my cassette as a 7 year old in ‘93 so it was a new album to me. 😁
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Post by seaoflove on May 5, 2022 13:57:52 GMT -8
I think this is what they’re counting: 1. OTTN 2. HND 3. Pyromania 4. Hysteria 5. Adrenalize 6. Slang 7. Euphoria 8. X 9. Yeah 10. SFTSL 11. Def Leppard 12. Diamond Star Halos Retro seems to be viewed as a compilation whereas Yeah was newly recorded so I guess that makes it a studio album. Personally I’d consider Retro an album over Yeah. I had no idea Retro was mostly old stuff when I got my cassette as a 7 year old in ‘93 so it was a new album to me. 😁 You might be right, I think they would be counting Retro since it's original material even if a lot had already been B-sides. I tried writing out a list this morning but accidentally left off the self-titled album! Still though, if this is considered 12th, then X is no longer their 10th? |
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Post by TurnToDust86 on May 5, 2022 14:10:53 GMT -8
I think this is what they’re counting: 1. OTTN 2. HND 3. Pyromania 4. Hysteria 5. Adrenalize 6. Slang 7. Euphoria 8. X 9. Yeah 10. SFTSL 11. Def Leppard 12. Diamond Star Halos Retro seems to be viewed as a compilation whereas Yeah was newly recorded so I guess that makes it a studio album. Personally I’d consider Retro an album over Yeah. I had no idea Retro was mostly old stuff when I got my cassette as a 7 year old in ‘93 so it was a new album to me. 😁 You might be right, I think they would be counting Retro since it's original material even if a lot had already been B-sides. I tried writing out a list this morning but accidentally left off the self-titled album! Still though, if this is considered 12th, then X is no longer their 10th? If we dig into it way more than we should, I think Yeah counts over Retro in terms of Lep satisfying their original 10 album contract. I believe a certain percentage had to be brand new recordings to qualify as a proper album so Retro didn't count. Yeah & SFTSL in rapid succession satisfied what they owed to the label. X was never their tenth album so it was a flawed title from the start. It was the tenth release at the time when counting Retro & Vault but what they consider albums now has seemingly changed. The addition of more compilations, live albums, and box sets only further complicates it. So I get why they would call DSH the 12th 'album' by simplifying it to a release comprised solely of new recordings (covers or not). |
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Post by blainc67 on May 5, 2022 16:18:03 GMT -8
There are some signed cd’s popping up on Ebay. I emailed one of the sellers about it. It’s signed on the insert/booklet.
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Post by deef on May 5, 2022 16:53:53 GMT -8
I’m getting so antsy just waiting for the new album!! These last 3 remaining weeks are going to go slow lol. What format is everyone going to give it a first listen?? For me, I’m going to listen to it digitally with headphones on, though I did also order 3 different physical versions.
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2022 16:55:16 GMT -8
No matter what, if you beleive in these things, it just might be best that it's not referred to as the 13th album! |
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Post by Armageddonit on May 5, 2022 17:31:39 GMT -8
There are some signed cd’s popping up on Ebay. I emailed one of the sellers about it. It’s signed on the insert/booklet. I checked out a couple of those also. Looks like they are all pre orders. I dont think any of them are actually out in the wild yet. |
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I'm not crazy about outside writers specifically when there is one prominent member of the band that has zero credits on the album. I'd much rather see songs credited to Collen/Campbell than Collen/stranger. But again, it is what it is and I'm just happy to be getting this album. And I think the main issue with outside writers during the X era was the songs solely written by outside writers. Co-writers was/is nothing new thanks to Lange/Woodroffe/etc. I didn't mind the songs co-written with Marti Frederiksen and those three were among my favorites on X. 
