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Post by CindyJ on Mar 22, 2022 14:03:33 GMT -8
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Post by fna692002 on Mar 22, 2022 14:15:57 GMT -8
This is it, like it or not! ;-) 1. Take What You Want - 4:14 (Rick Savage, Joe Elliott) 2. Kick [feat. Dave Bassett and Debbi Blackwell-Cook] - 3:42 (Phil Collen, Dave Bassett) 3. Fire It Up - 3:19 (Phil Collen, Sam Hollander) 4. This Guitar [feat. Alison Krauss] - 3:50 (Phil Collen, CJ Vanston) 5. SOS Emergency - 3:25 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 6. Liquid Dust - 4:01 (Phil Collen) 7. U Rok Mi - 3:33 (Phil Collen) 8. Goodbye For Good This Time [feat. Mike Garson]- 4:27 (Joe Elliott) 9. All We Need - 4:46 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 10. Open Your Eyes - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 11. Gimme A Kiss - 3:12 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 12. Angels (Can’t Help You Now) [feat. Mike Garson] - 4:57 (Joe Elliott) 13. Lifeless [feat. Alison Krauss] - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 14. Unbreakable - 3:46 (Joe Elliott) 15. From Here To Eternity - 5:37 (Rick Savage) Total = 1:01:27 Interesting Sav wrote the last track…. Viv looks absent but he wasn’t on the last one either. Ready for the 27th! |
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Post by wabowarrior on Mar 22, 2022 14:55:58 GMT -8
This is it, like it or not! ;-) 1. Take What You Want - 4:14 (Rick Savage, Joe Elliott) 2. Kick [feat. Dave Bassett and Debbi Blackwell-Cook] - 3:42 (Phil Collen, Dave Bassett) 3. Fire It Up - 3:19 (Phil Collen, Sam Hollander) 4. This Guitar [feat. Alison Krauss] - 3:50 (Phil Collen, CJ Vanston) 5. SOS Emergency - 3:25 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 6. Liquid Dust - 4:01 (Phil Collen) 7. U Rok Mi - 3:33 (Phil Collen) 8. Goodbye For Good This Time [feat. Mike Garson]- 4:27 (Joe Elliott) 9. All We Need - 4:46 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 10. Open Your Eyes - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 11. Gimme A Kiss - 3:12 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 12. Angels (Can’t Help You Now) [feat. Mike Garson] - 4:57 (Joe Elliott) 13. Lifeless [feat. Alison Krauss] - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 14. Unbreakable - 3:46 (Joe Elliott) 15. From Here To Eternity - 5:37 (Rick Savage) Total = 1:01:27 Interesting Sav wrote the last track…. Viv looks absent but he wasn’t on the last one either. Ready for the 27th! Definitely a lot less collaboration on the writing this time around between the band members, which I guess is due to them probably all writing at home during the pandemic. As for Viv, I would guess he is focusing his writing efforts on the Last in Line stuff these days. |
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Post by TurnToDust86 on Mar 22, 2022 15:41:08 GMT -8
This is it, like it or not! ;-) 1. Take What You Want - 4:14 (Rick Savage, Joe Elliott) 2. Kick [feat. Dave Bassett and Debbi Blackwell-Cook] - 3:42 (Phil Collen, Dave Bassett) 3. Fire It Up - 3:19 (Phil Collen, Sam Hollander) 4. This Guitar [feat. Alison Krauss] - 3:50 (Phil Collen, CJ Vanston) 5. SOS Emergency - 3:25 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 6. Liquid Dust - 4:01 (Phil Collen) 7. U Rok Mi - 3:33 (Phil Collen) 8. Goodbye For Good This Time [feat. Mike Garson]- 4:27 (Joe Elliott) 9. All We Need - 4:46 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 10. Open Your Eyes - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 11. Gimme A Kiss - 3:12 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 12. Angels (Can’t Help You Now) [feat. Mike Garson] - 4:57 (Joe Elliott) 13. Lifeless [feat. Alison Krauss] - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 14. Unbreakable - 3:46 (Joe Elliott) 15. From Here To Eternity - 5:37 (Rick Savage) Total = 1:01:27 Hmm. Well if Viv can’t be bothered to contribute to the day job, I don’t have to be bothered to contribute to his side project. Already skipped their last make up show in my area that I had tickets for, I’m skipping their show around here next month, and whatever interest I had left just went out the window after seeing those credits. |
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Post by deef on Mar 22, 2022 16:41:22 GMT -8
I’m a bit bothered by the credits as well. I don’t know if Viv offered up any ideas, or if the other guys just kinda put his ideas aside. BUT, I really hope Phil doesn’t do to this record what he did to Tesla’s latest release. I’m still incredibly excited, especially for the tracks that Joe wrote himself, or just with one other person. I personally lovvveddd his latest DNO album. But I’m on the same page as other posters here; as long as the album is properly leppardized, I’ll love it. I also am not a fan of any of the bands that influenced them! But so far, Kick sits very well with me, so Phil did good on that!
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Post by DesertSun81 on Mar 22, 2022 16:47:35 GMT -8
I thought this was just conjecture...this is indeed the final writing credits? Source? If so the writing collaboration is quite light in general with no songs that have more than 2 composers and it's also interesting there are more outside writers than Sav credits. I get that it was during a pandemic and you probably won't find most of their recent songs having more than 2-3 composers also, but it looks like when they talked about all of the e-mail trading of song bits it was relegated to Joe and Phil. I remember a Viv quote from the last album where he said he was disappointed he didn't have the opportunity to write more for self titled...it's a shame if he indeed has no writing credits. I have really enjoyed his contributions over the years. While I'm sure the album will still be great and I'm not looking forward to it any less the credits are definitely eyebrow raising if these are indeed it. This is it, like it or not! ;-) 1. Take What You Want - 4:14 (Rick Savage, Joe Elliott) 2. Kick [feat. Dave Bassett and Debbi Blackwell-Cook] - 3:42 (Phil Collen, Dave Bassett) 3. Fire It Up - 3:19 (Phil Collen, Sam Hollander) 4. This Guitar [feat. Alison Krauss] - 3:50 (Phil Collen, CJ Vanston) 5. SOS Emergency - 3:25 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 6. Liquid Dust - 4:01 (Phil Collen) 7. U Rok Mi - 3:33 (Phil Collen) 8. Goodbye For Good This Time [feat. Mike Garson]- 4:27 (Joe Elliott) 9. All We Need - 4:46 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 10. Open Your Eyes - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 11. Gimme A Kiss - 3:12 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 12. Angels (Can’t Help You Now) [feat. Mike Garson] - 4:57 (Joe Elliott) 13. Lifeless [feat. Alison Krauss] - 4:19 (Phil Collen, Joe Elliott) 14. Unbreakable - 3:46 (Joe Elliott) 15. From Here To Eternity - 5:37 (Rick Savage) Total = 1:01:27 |
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Post by tsmith on Mar 22, 2022 17:46:12 GMT -8
I wasn't so bothered by what Phil did to the Tesla release. I actually liked what he did.... IF it were a Def Leppard album. I think my issue was basically what he did was "Leppardize" Tesla. Yeah, there were a few bad songs on that album. But I also think some of the songs on that album might've sounded better as Def Leppard songs than Tesla songs. Tesla is a band that should be doing gritty, in your face melodic hard rock....not "sugary" type tunes (like Taste Like, Shock, etc). Def Leppard on the other hand can get away with those "sugary" type tunes. I feel like Kick is a good example. That sounds great to me as a Leppard tune because I expect and want that kind of fun, catchy, melodic tune from them. But I'm not sure I'd like that song as much if Tesla did it. Either way, definitely think my enjoyment of the new album is going to depend on how much it's "Leppardized". Give me a bunch of catchy tunes with layered guitars and backing vocals that make for a huge feeling sound, and I'll be elated. It's when the ignore those things that I'm often left scratching my head a bit as to me those are the signature Def Leppard elements. AS for Viv and the writing credits, I'm not sure I'm all that bothered. Sure, it would be nice to see him more involved. But he really has never seemed to be overly involved in writing for Leppard outside of a few songs. I get the feeling he's just happy playing his parts and going with the flow. I mean, you don't see Rick writing much either. He's happy playing his parts and doing his art. I guess I feel like these guys have been around a long time and have probably settled into their roles. I’m a bit bothered by the credits as well. I don’t know if Viv offered up any ideas, or if the other guys just kinda put his ideas aside. BUT, I really hope Phil doesn’t do to this record what he did to Tesla’s latest release. I’m still incredibly excited, especially for the tracks that Joe wrote himself, or just with one other person. I personally lovvveddd his latest DNO album. But I’m on the same page as other posters here; as long as the album is properly leppardized, I’ll love it. I also am not a fan of any of the bands that influenced them! But so far, Kick sits very well with me, so Phil did good on that! |
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Post by deef on Mar 22, 2022 18:14:40 GMT -8
I wasn't so bothered by what Phil did to the Tesla release. I actually liked what he did.... IF it were a Def Leppard album. I think my issue was basically what he did was "Leppardize" Tesla. Yeah, there were a few bad songs on that album. But I also think some of the songs on that album might've sounded better as Def Leppard songs than Tesla songs. Tesla is a band that should be doing gritty, in your face melodic hard rock....not "sugary" type tunes (like Taste Like, Shock, etc). Def Leppard on the other hand can get away with those "sugary" type tunes. I feel like Kick is a good example. That sounds great to me as a Leppard tune because I expect and want that kind of fun, catchy, melodic tune from them. But I'm not sure I'd like that song as much if Tesla did it. Either way, definitely think my enjoyment of the new album is going to depend on how much it's "Leppardized". Give me a bunch of catchy tunes with layered guitars and backing vocals that make for a huge feeling sound, and I'll be elated. It's when the ignore those things that I'm often left scratching my head a bit as to me those are the signature Def Leppard elements. AS for Viv and the writing credits, I'm not sure I'm all that bothered. Sure, it would be nice to see him more involved. But he really has never seemed to be overly involved in writing for Leppard outside of a few songs. I get the feeling he's just happy playing his parts and going with the flow. I mean, you don't see Rick writing much either. He's happy playing his parts and doing his art. I guess I feel like these guys have been around a long time and have probably settled into their roles. I’m a bit bothered by the credits as well. I don’t know if Viv offered up any ideas, or if the other guys just kinda put his ideas aside. BUT, I really hope Phil doesn’t do to this record what he did to Tesla’s latest release. I’m still incredibly excited, especially for the tracks that Joe wrote himself, or just with one other person. I personally lovvveddd his latest DNO album. But I’m on the same page as other posters here; as long as the album is properly leppardized, I’ll love it. I also am not a fan of any of the bands that influenced them! But so far, Kick sits very well with me, so Phil did good on that! I feel you on all those points! I just get kind of bummed seeing no credits for Viv, knowing how iconic he is. Plus, the song Work It Out is one of my favourite lepp songs. I really hope there’s some songs on DSH with a Slang vibe |
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Post by seaoflove on Mar 22, 2022 18:54:40 GMT -8
Do we know for sure those are the final credits and Viv really had no input or is this just what we can gather so far?
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Post by niklas on Mar 22, 2022 21:18:34 GMT -8
The UPC listed on the Target website is 602438945153 and the photo shows translucent vinyl. The UPC listed on the Tower Records Japan website is 602438945153 and the photo shows opaque vinyl. I think they are the same thing. If you mean the pupil on the center label is red in one image and not the other, I think that is just how the records overlap. The Target one, you can actually see the red vinyl through the yellow one which you can’t on the others. It could be like a stock photo and my wallet hopes they are the same;-) |
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Post by treffo on Mar 22, 2022 22:47:09 GMT -8
Do we know for sure those are the final credits and Viv really had no input or is this just what we can gather so far? I've got the credits from a very reliable source. No guessing here. :-) |
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Post by andylgr on Mar 23, 2022 1:14:13 GMT -8
An I right in assuming that all the countries carrying the clear /translucent vinyl are actually the same release? Same for the coloured vinyl too?
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Post by seb00 on Mar 23, 2022 2:13:33 GMT -8
Do we know for sure those are the final credits and Viv really had no input or is this just what we can gather so far? I've got the credits from a very reliable source. No guessing here. :-) Not surprised by what’s been said from the guys about the album but still really disappointed. I feel Viv has been quite unlucky in some aspects with his time in Def Leppard. Never felt he has put his mark down on the band on record. He certainly did in a live sense though, improving the backing vocals immensely. |
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Post by quarky on Mar 23, 2022 7:30:41 GMT -8
If Viv isn't mentioned, that could just mean it either isn't a Viv song, or it wasn't a significant impact on the overall structure sound of the song? So he could have had plenty of input, but just not brought any songs to the table. Or he did and they were not selected for the album?
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Post by diva on Mar 23, 2022 7:51:41 GMT -8
There’s a new, interesting tweet from the band’s official account. If someone could explain how to embed tweets, I’ll do it. I don’t know why I’m not able to do it.
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Post by cmerritt on Mar 23, 2022 8:15:30 GMT -8
There’s a new, interesting tweet from the band’s official account. If someone could explain how to embed tweets, I’ll do it. I don’t know why I’m not able to do it. Video for Kick incoming fairly soon lets hope  |
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Post by diva on Mar 23, 2022 8:36:30 GMT -8
Cindy posted the tweet on the Kick thread. I should have posted there.
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Post by Dan on Mar 23, 2022 15:54:38 GMT -8
An I right in assuming that all the countries carrying the clear /translucent vinyl are actually the same release? Same for the coloured vinyl too? I suspect they are the same. Same thing with the vinyl picture disc. The picture disc version shows one disc in b&w and one in colour on the uDiscover Music site with product code 3894517U. The MusicVaultz site for Canada shows both picture discs in colour with product code 3894517. I have to figure they are the same but could get a surprise. |
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Post by andylgr on Mar 24, 2022 4:55:06 GMT -8
Just out of interest what label is this being released on?
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Post by Dan on Mar 24, 2022 5:02:53 GMT -8
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Post by Blair on Mar 24, 2022 5:56:51 GMT -8
Just out of interest what label is this being released on? If Amazon is correct, it’s coming out on Universal. |
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Post by cmerritt on Mar 24, 2022 7:46:33 GMT -8
Diamond Star Halo T-shirts are out in the wild, Amazon UK delivered mine today !!!  |
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Post by martyd on Mar 24, 2022 13:17:21 GMT -8
An I right in assuming that all the countries carrying the clear /translucent vinyl are actually the same release? Same for the coloured vinyl too? JB Hi-Fi Australia are displaying this little disclaimer on their "exclusive" - which makes me think possibly all red/yellow are the same?  |
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Post by CindyJ on Mar 25, 2022 7:59:26 GMT -8
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Post by quarky on Mar 25, 2022 8:52:14 GMT -8
Given the way this album was recorded, there is no excuse for not having different versions of the songs too, including early demos. I am really looking forward to hearing those at some point.
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Post by andylgr on Mar 25, 2022 23:53:23 GMT -8
They say this is an Irish exclusive but I’m not convinced it’s different to the one that was listed last week on all the other record selling sites. Unless someone knows differently? |
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Post by edwardcreighton on Mar 26, 2022 0:50:26 GMT -8
saying this as someone born in ireland (north anyway) but they spelt def as deff, so could be irish exclusive!
yet to make up mind on which vinyl to buy, stuck between standard and pic disc t shirt bundle. costs almost as much in import taxes to have sent to thailand as vinyl and t shirt itself. think have sent to northern ireland and fingers xx collect this summer. buy download for big day.
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Post by diva on Mar 26, 2022 13:47:21 GMT -8
Just checking to see if there’s something wrong with the board. I find it hard to believe there’s been no posts for 12 hours.
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Post by fna692002 on Mar 26, 2022 15:07:20 GMT -8
Just checking to see if there’s something wrong with the board. I find it hard to believe there’s been no posts for 12 hours. I think right now everyone has said what has needed to be said about the album/single/formats/video etc….I’m still playing kickt multiple times daily, but there’s not much to say regarding any new info towards the album. I’m perfectly happy letting Kick sink in my dna for the next couple weeks and I’m gonna guess we will get another song in April before the album! |
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Post by Shawn on Mar 26, 2022 23:22:05 GMT -8
Just checking to see if there’s something wrong with the board. I find it hard to believe there’s been no posts for 12 hours. I think right now everyone has said what has needed to be said about the album/single/formats/video etc….I’m still playing kickt multiple times daily, but there’s not much to say regarding any new info towards the album. I’m perfectly happy letting Kick sink in my dna for the next couple weeks and I’m gonna guess we will get another song in April before the album! I'm going to hold off on any opinion on the single i have 60 plus minutes ahead to get to know the songs before i form any opinion on it . As for the video i like it. I can appreciate the time and editing. Anything negativity is pointless. |
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