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Post by Armageddonit on Jul 26, 2024 11:16:08 GMT -8
Is it too early to talk about the next album? I think they have more in the can than they are letting on, similar to DSH.
-What do you predict the album will sound like?
-When is it coming out?
I think it will be a mid 2025 release. I think they have exhausted the glammy throw back type of song and I think that it will become a little more guitar oriented (Open Your Eyes/Unbreakable). I’d also love to see Viv be back and more involved .
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Post by melodicrock on Jul 26, 2024 14:41:13 GMT -8
Die hard fan since 1988. But please put to bed the glam influence albums/songs. Write an album that just rocks!! Get those harmonies and big background vocals. And for God's sake, vivian, please contribute some writing this time. Why isn't this guy writing more songs?
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Post by fna692002 on Jul 27, 2024 5:54:56 GMT -8
Id say mid to late 2025 release. I wonder if they will do what Bon Jovi did and tie this in with the supposed documentary that’s been in play for a while.
As far as sound I agree with the non glam rock first single. I wouldn’t mind a pop rock type Promises/Dangerous type song as a lead. At the end of the day tho I feel beyond blessed as a fan that we are getting another album. I just look forward to what they have to offer us.
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Post by Armageddonit on Jul 27, 2024 6:53:55 GMT -8
Id say mid to late 2025 release. I wonder if they will do what Bon Jovi did and tie this in with the supposed documentary that’s been in play for a while. As far as sound I agree with the non glam rock first single. I wouldn’t mind a pop rock type Promises/Dangerous type song as a lead. At the end of the day tho I feel beyond blessed as a fan that we are getting another album. I just look forward to what they have to offer us. 100% for us long time fans to be getting this quality and frequency of activity from the band is incredible! I would be on board with a Photograph/Promises/Dangerous type single!! |
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Post by treffo on Jul 27, 2024 7:33:45 GMT -8
Hopes for the next album;
- less country
- less piano
- less handclaps and glam pop influences
- more collaboration within the band on most songs
- collaboration between Phil and Viv on a few songs
- more guitar focus incl riffs with twin guitar sound
- less soft and slow songs
- less low register "ballad type" singing from Joe on the verses
- choruses with high energy singing like the live classics
- heavier rhythms overall
- more epic kind of songs
- more darker/deeper kind of lyrics
- punchier drum sound than DSH
- outside producer or outside quality control in some way
- Joe pushing himself harder on the vocals
- no copying of Photograph, Hysteria, Animal, PSSOM, We will rock you etc
- less pop production effects
Well, that was my hopes, not my predictions. ;-)
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Post by Shawn on Jul 27, 2024 7:37:26 GMT -8
LOL this is absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.  Hopes for the next album; - less country - less piano - less handclaps and glam pop influences - more collaboration within the band on most songs - collaboration between Phil and Viv on a few songs - more guitar focus incl riffs with twin guitar sound - less soft and slow songs - less low register "ballad type" singing from Joe on the verses - choruses with high energy singing lika the live classics - heavier rhythms overall - more epic kind of songs - more darker/deeper kind of lyrics - punchier drum sound than DSH - outside producer or outside quality control in some way - Joe pushing himsekf harder on the vocals - no copying of Photograph, Hysteria, Animal, PSSOM etc - less pop production effects Well, that was my hopes, not my predictions. ;-) |
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Post by Shawn on Jul 27, 2024 8:06:05 GMT -8
Die hard fan since 1988. But please put to bed the glam influence albums/songs. Write an album that just rocks!! Get those harmonies and big background vocals. And for God's sake, vivian, please contribute some writing this time. Why isn't this guy writing more songs? I think a lot of Fans think if Vivian writes more... the songs will be heavier. I don't think that will ever happen. For example "Take What You Want" from DSH... possibly one of the Heavier songs written by the band in recent History. Would it have been even heavier if Viv wrote it? Unlikely. But he played on it as did Phil and i think it's the heaviest we will see out of them. Interesting bit of info it was written by Joe & Sav. Like Viv has said in the past, Phil is just a better salesman with his ideas. If you look at the Last Album DSH, Joe & Phil wrote most of it with Sav contributing to 2 of the songs. Plus 3 outside writers with Phil. All 3 of those songs made it to the Top 4 tracks on the Album. I think Viv needs someone like Mutt Lange or Bob Rock on his side. Someone to help turn his ideas into songs. An outside writer like Phil has. If you listen to LIL do you think any of those songs could be a Def Leppard Song? Songwriting within a band is very political if you dissect it and look back at the history of the songs. |
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Post by treffo on Jul 27, 2024 8:21:58 GMT -8
LOL this is absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. Hopes for the next album; - less country - less piano - less handclaps and glam pop influences - more collaboration within the band on most songs - collaboration between Phil and Viv on a few songs - more guitar focus incl riffs with twin guitar sound - less soft and slow songs - less low register "ballad type" singing from Joe on the verses - choruses with high energy singing lika the live classics - heavier rhythms overall - more epic kind of songs - more darker/deeper kind of lyrics - punchier drum sound than DSH - outside producer or outside quality control in some way - Joe pushing himsekf harder on the vocals - no copying of Photograph, Hysteria, Animal, PSSOM etc - less pop production effects Well, that was my hopes, not my predictions. ;-) 17 hopes... Too much?? ;-) How many is realistic to really believe in? |
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Post by Shawn on Jul 27, 2024 8:36:32 GMT -8
LOL this is absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. 17 hopes... Too much?? ;-) How many is realistic to really believe in? LOL I think with Def Leppard anything is possible. Nothing surprises me creatively with this band. So what you listed is possible on any given record. That's why i look forward to every release. Lots of Variety imo. |
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Post by Jefflep on Jul 27, 2024 12:32:59 GMT -8
I thought I read 3 different statements that contradicted what they were thinking about with regards to the next album. One, that they like 73 and are leaning that direction, the other was where Phil said it was a leftover from DSH , so I’m a little confused. LOL this is absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. 17 hopes... Too much?? ;-) How many is realistic to really believe in? |
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Post by wabowarrior on Jul 27, 2024 12:41:59 GMT -8
I was going to suggest a reunion with Mutt.... but then I realized by the time the album is done it would be 2030.  |
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Post by fna692002 on Jul 27, 2024 12:55:53 GMT -8
I was going to suggest a reunion with Mutt.... but then I realized by the time the album is done it would be 2030. As cool as it would be for them to do a album or track with Mutt, I can’t help but wonder at this point in the game…would it really add anything new to the band in terms of sound wise. I think the band has learned almost all you can and mastered how to get the sound mutt perfected , on their own. I could be wrong but other than headlines that they are working together again I’m not sure mutt can add anything at this point, nor do I think the band have the patience to do the type of production methods mutt is known for. I’ve seen Joe really hype up a producer named Andrew Watt. He’s done Ozzys last 2, the new Stones album and a boatload of big pop hits…..I would be really interested in seeing what he and the band could do if they went the new producer route. |
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Post by Shawn on Jul 27, 2024 14:59:34 GMT -8
I was going to suggest a reunion with Mutt.... but then I realized by the time the album is done it would be 2030. As cool as it would be for them to do a album or track with Mutt, I can’t help but wonder at this point in the game…would it really add anything new to the band in terms of sound wise. I think the band has learned almost all you can and mastered how to get the sound mutt perfected , on their own. I could be wrong but other than headlines that they are working together again I’m not sure mutt can add anything at this point, nor do I think the band have the patience to do the type of production methods mutt is known for. I’ve seen Joe really hype up a producer named Andrew Watt. He’s done Ozzys last 2, the new Stones album and a boatload of big pop hits…..I would be really interested in seeing what he and the band could do if they went the new producer route. What i would expect out of Mutt would be to bring ideas out of the band. Create hooks and catchy parts like say a Rocket. Bring the overall quality of the songs up a notch. I don't mean to chase the success of Pyro, Hysteria or Adrenalize... but just polish the songs more. But i feel Joe has had enough of Mutt. I get if he said yes the rest of the band would fall in line. i will say this, i would not be disappointed if they released a part 2 to their 2015 self-titled album. I really like that Album. Viv has 2 song credits on that album. That was imo is an album full of hits... beyond just the singles. We can always wish for better... but i'm thankful for anything new they release. |
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Post by edwardcreighton on Jul 28, 2024 7:23:45 GMT -8
I would like ballady tracks capped at 2 songs on the next album. DSH had 4 to my mind.
Open to Lepps working with other producers as well as continuing to self produce.
As a fan of Lepps funkier material (Excitable, Man Enough, and maybe being the only forum member who likes All Night!) being produced by Nile Rodgers for a song or 2 would be interesting as he produced Bowie's Let's Dance and some of my favourite Duran Duran songs.
Hope Vivian writes more. Hope for classic Lepps sounding first single.
Self titled album was brilliant, DSH mostly brilliant, hope keep up the form.
Fingers xx album finished by time Euro 2025 tour starts, single released May 2025, album to follow late summer.
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Post by Steph on Jul 28, 2024 15:30:05 GMT -8
I was not a fan of DSH at all. TWYW is a great song, so something more in that direction. I don't want to hear anymore country sounding crap. Also hoping the next album is not full of songs like Just Like 73. I want harder rocking songs. |
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Post by jdwalker on Jul 29, 2024 1:12:26 GMT -8
I definitely agree with the notion that the band should pull back on the more 'glam rock' influenced style. I didn't mind '73' but I think that the band alongside Joe with the Down N Outz have squeezed everything they can from the sound.
Happy to be proven wrong as I thought DSH was a step down from DL, but if '73' is any indication, it seems like at this stage we're heading down the road of DSH Part II - Electric Boogaloo.
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Post by tsmith on Jul 29, 2024 2:47:13 GMT -8
I liked about 1/2 of DSH but agree...they've paid enough homage to the glam 70's period. I did like that they did a more focused, concept album though. Let's just move it forward 10 years and do an 80's inspired album now! I was not a fan of DSH at all. TWYW is a great song, so something more in that direction. I don't want to hear anymore country sounding crap. Also hoping the next album is not full of songs like Just Like 73. I want harder rocking songs. |
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Post by Dan on Jul 29, 2024 6:02:14 GMT -8
I really enjoyed DSH and enjoy the glam inspired tunes. That said I do think it might be time to dial the obviousness of the influence down a bit. I'd love to see a Steve inspired album if that makes sense to say. The band aren't going write the same songs they did 35-45 years ago. Sonically they could be in the same ballpark as H'n'D, Pryo and Hysteria. What I'm thinking is a sound similar in style to how they are performing the non-acoustic tracks on tour. The band seems to have fun with it and the crowds seem to love it.
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Post by DesertSun81 on Jul 29, 2024 7:33:31 GMT -8
I was looking at my Music Replay on Apple Music year to date this weekend, and the #1 song I've played for what will be the third consecutive year is TAKE WHAT YOU WANT. I hope the band understands how fantastic that song is and how universally well received it's been across all types of fans (more so than any song I can think of in recent memory!). While I did largely embrace DSH, as you go down the list of what I've listened to the most from the album in order, what I would consider the most Leppard sounding songs on the album have received the most plays so far this year (SOS/OYE/AWN/GAK with FHTE also in the mix). Surrounded by those from the rest of the catalog are virtually all of the classic 'epic' type tracks (WL/DS/PS/DHTH/GOW), the hook laden/big vocal/melodic mainsteam tracks (PROMISES/YOU'RE SO BEAUTIFUL/DANGEROUS/HEAVEN IS), a few of the more straight ahead rock tracks (ALL TIME HIGH/WORK IT OUT/GIFT OF FLESH/BAD ACTRESS) and some of the moodier rock tracks (TLFL/WOAA/MIRROR MIRROR/GO/SCAR/WOMEN/DAY AFTER DAY/CRUISE CONTROL). Throw in a HYSTERIA/STAND UP style song (both are in my top played songs this year also) and this would be what I would consider a hell of a blueprint for the next album. |
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Post by treffo on Jul 30, 2024 1:19:00 GMT -8
Joe said DSH was a quantum leap for Def Leppard compared to what they've done before. Phil thought DSH was the best (or one of the two best) album DL ever recorded. And very recently Phil said "Just Like 73" sounded even better than DSH. They both praised the way DSH was written and recorded remotely.
Phil also said (concerning the next album) that "Joe and I write all the time. We send each other things. Sav gets in on there. Just between the three of us, there's just a lot of stuff floating around already".
They will of course always speak high of new music but I believe this will tell us something about the next album.
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Post by quarky on Aug 1, 2024 1:15:50 GMT -8
For me, DSH is the most solid album they have done for decades, while still having variety. It has songs that rocks, and songs that pull at the heart strings. It has typical DL songs, while still pushing boundaries. Just a great mix, and I still listen to it quite a bit, more than two years later.
The next album doesn't need to sound like it, but I just hope it retains that quality throughout. From Euphoria onwards, DL have had that variety in their albums that means that we might only get a selection of songs of any particular type. I would love to hear a Pyro II, or Hysteria II, but we are just not going to get that, as as the band said, they write for themselves, which is obviously fair enough, they have earned it.
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Post by Jefflep on Sept 3, 2024 11:06:03 GMT -8
Maybe we make a “what’s next, or 2025 speculation” thread. Various blog articles have mentioned a new album, next years tour of other countries and the US, a Vegas residency, etc. I did read that they booked MSG for 2025, obviously that is not necessarily a viable source, or confirmed. But, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch if they did book some arenas, especially in some smaller markets that were not included in the 2024 Stadium tour. That would allow them to truly headline, and support the new album. Similar to what 2023 was.
Thoughts??
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Post by quarky on Sept 13, 2024 3:08:09 GMT -8
The new Smashing Pumpkins album is a bit of a return to their classic sound, and showed it can be done, although it won't sell like the classics of course. Arguably, Pearl Jam and RHCP did too.
Depends on how far along the latest album is, but I wonder what it would take for DL to ever really consider it. I don't think it would happen, but we all know it would be awesome to hear, and at this point, if I was the band, I would be thinking, why not?
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Post by tsmith on Sept 13, 2024 3:36:03 GMT -8
Definitely think they could do a classic sounding album if they wanted to. I mean, they've done classic sounding songs....Take What You Want, Dangerous, etc. I simply just don't think they're interested in trying to do more stuff like they've already done. I feel like they really like just doing a bit of everything and the freedom to just not be constrained. Couldn't agree more though. I'd want nothing more than them trying to do a more classic sounding Leppard "rock" album. I feel like realistically something that falls between Slang and Euphoria style wise would be a great target. At the end of the day though, I'm just happy they're still interested in doing new music! The new Smashing Pumpkins album is a bit of a return to their classic sound, and showed it can be done, although it won't sell like the classics of course. Arguably, Pearl Jam and RHCP did too. Depends on how far along the latest album is, but I wonder what it would take for DL to ever really consider it. I don't think it would happen, but we all know it would be awesome to hear, and at this point, if I was the band, I would be thinking, why not? |
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Post by Armageddonit on Sept 14, 2024 8:30:33 GMT -8
I’d be 100% happy if they continued with the same scope as DSH.
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Post by andylgr on Sept 15, 2024 21:43:19 GMT -8
I'd like to see a return to the classic 10 track, 45 minute album format, thats to the point and focused on being mainly a rock album. I'm not a fan of the vast majority of DSH, its too eclectic for my tastes and too far removed from what I think a Lep album should be like. But at the end of the day they're not making albums for me these days, they're making them for themselves nowadays. Viv made a funny comment about Joe recently when he called him Elton Joe, I think that joke is bang on the money with some of the stuff that went on DSH. Oh and if the album is due next year I'd throw just like 73 on there so that it has a proper home.
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Post by mechanicalanimal1 on Sept 17, 2024 12:19:00 GMT -8
i just hope it's got a lot of killer rocking songs like Take What You Want from the last album.
i think that's their best song in a long time and am still loving that tune (the majority of the last album was great, imo)
in reality, they never really let me down too terribly and i enjoy all of their albums, so i just want more music from them in general
but if it could have some awesome rockin tracks like Take What You Want, then i'll be even more excited. Let Phil and Vivian go nuts
on the guitars...lots of solo's and stuff !
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Post by jimmyta on Sept 17, 2024 21:20:51 GMT -8
I hope they are done with Glam, no more please, that's enough.
I'd like to see a few longer songs, with room for extended lead breaks, and more changes of tempo, more emotive songs. I guess I want more "Epic" songs.
I think they do need to go a bit more hard rock just for one album. I love ballads but let's have a pure rock album with elements of melodic metal.
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Post by bluejeangirl82 on Sept 19, 2024 12:36:03 GMT -8
Is it too early to talk about the next album? I think they have more in the can than they are letting on, similar to DSH. -What do you predict the album will sound like? -When is it coming out? I think it will be a mid 2025 release. I think they have exhausted the glammy throw back type of song and I think that it will become a little more guitar oriented (Open Your Eyes/Unbreakable). I’d also love to see Viv be back and more involved . I’m getting so sick and tired of fans who go on and on about how “Def Leppard went downhill after High n Dry (or Photograph)!” And they whine and moan about “how poppy their albums were after Pyro and how they just don’t do any HARD ROCK anymore!” So…I would love it if the band would make an album in the spirit of HnD and Pyro and just make it really rock hard! #1: it would shut those whiners up! #2: it would just be really cool to get some real fat, crunchy guitars and traditional Leppard vocals. They really had a couple of hard rockers mixed with anthem vocals on DSH…specifically “U Rok Mi”, “Open Your Eyes”, “Gimme a Kiss that Rocks”, TWYW, and “Fire it Up”! I wish they would have played those live the last two years (though they did with TWYW and Fire it Up, and those were amazing!). But they are definitely on the right track with those songs! And one last thing: no more country and/or duos with country artists. I liked “This Guitar”, but I would have loved to have heard an electric, rocked up version! |
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Post by kevo008 on Sept 30, 2024 23:09:57 GMT -8
I have been a die-hard fan since 1989,i was 16. As far as what id like to hear what the next album would sound like.... Well, i will accept whatever they choose to release.
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