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Post by tsmith on Dec 19, 2023 11:53:41 GMT -8
I have my ticket stub from 1987 to see Leppard & Tesla....Price was $15.50 and I had decent seats at that show probably around 20-25 rows from the stage. Now I wasn't working then, but I have some of my Dad's papers still filed away and his salary from his full-time job was around 20K back then. He worked as a stone quarry laborer so wasn't like some big paying job but we got by well enough. Anyways, if todays cost for that same decent seat ticket is $300, that would mean it's about 20 times higher than 1987. So would my Dad's salary be 20 times higher today too? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be making 400K for his stone quarry labor job lol! Clearly, things have gotten extremely out of whack and concert tickets have gone up proportionately WAY more than many people's compensation has. It used to be that these package tours were a good deal for fans and you could get a lot of bang for your buck. Well, that's not the case anymore. And it certainly doesn't help at all that 30% of your cost is going toward ticketmaster fees. It's just frustrating. It's not that I can't afford to go but it really is starting to feel like we're being taken advantage of as fans and I'm just tired of feeding the madness. Hopefully I get to see the day again when Leppard is just playing by themselves with a smaller opening act. I'd hope tickets would be a bit cheaper if you subtracted the other bands that need their paydays too. Ticket prices seem crazy for any band playing stadiums or arenas. I was looking at Slipknot tickets for Leeds in the UK the cheapest tickets I can fine are £106 for rubbish seats most prices are £250+!! crazy money something really needs to change.
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Post by andylgr on Dec 19, 2023 13:48:26 GMT -8
I have my ticket stub from 1987 to see Leppard & Tesla....Price was $15.50 and I had decent seats at that show probably around 20-25 rows from the stage. Now I wasn't working then, but I have some of my Dad's papers still filed away and his salary from his full-time job was around 20K back then. He worked as a stone quarry laborer so wasn't like some big paying job but we got by well enough. Anyways, if todays cost for that same decent seat ticket is $300, that would mean it's about 20 times higher than 1987. So would my Dad's salary be 20 times higher today too? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be making 400K for his stone quarry labor job lol! Clearly, things have gotten extremely out of whack and concert tickets have gone up proportionately WAY more than many people's compensation has. It used to be that these package tours were a good deal for fans and you could get a lot of bang for your buck. Well, that's not the case anymore. And it certainly doesn't help at all that 30% of your cost is going toward ticketmaster fees. It's just frustrating. It's not that I can't afford to go but it really is starting to feel like we're being taken advantage of as fans and I'm just tired of feeding the madness. Hopefully I get to see the day again when Leppard is just playing by themselves with a smaller opening act. I'd hope tickets would be a bit cheaper if you subtracted the other bands that need their paydays too. Ticket prices seem crazy for any band playing stadiums or arenas. I was looking at Slipknot tickets for Leeds in the UK the cheapest tickets I can fine are £106 for rubbish seats most prices are £250+!! crazy money something really needs to change. Things have changed a lot in the modern era. Back then bands had to tour to promote their album. Albums were where it was at for them. Now Leps have moved into that bracket of acts who can tour without anything to promote and they’re just touring for the money now. Just like many other bands of their era, it’s just a payday and the fact that aside from residencies they just play mostly the same stuff says it all about how they approach the live shows.
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Post by edwardcreighton on Dec 19, 2023 23:26:44 GMT -8
The concert industry in 2023 hit record highs, US stadium tours routinely averaged ticket prices of $200-250. Can't blame Leppard for wanting some of that, as demand increases even though prices increase. I remember writing on this forum many years ago about Leppard averaging $50 per ticket in US, selling 10000 per show. Of course current prices mean many die hard fans are now priced out, not sure bands care on that. Notable lack of enthusiasm on this forum about the 2024 tour. news.pollstar.com/2023/12/11/taylor-swifts-1b-year-u2-sphere-a-new-golden-age-pollstars-2023-year-end-hub/The US government in 2010 allowed the merger of Live Nation and Ticketmaster and since then has pretty much allowed LN to act as it wishes. US government huffs and puffs but it's anti-trust (monopoly) laws seem weak so you have the current situation. Live Nation now books the concerts; sells the tickets using wide range dynamic pricing or slow ticketing methods; increasingly restricts the reselling of tickets so that happens through TM so they charge exorbitant fees twice; distributes the merchandise at concerts including Leppard's; has controlling interests at 338 venues worldwide; signs deals with venues restricting the venue from using other primary ticket sellers; Live Nation manages artists such as Adele, Carrie Underwood and Weezer; owns many festivals in UK Download, Reading and Leeds. In the US Liberty Media who own 35% of LN, also owns 72% of Sirius Radio in US which has a wide reach.
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