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Post by preilly44 on Dec 9, 2022 7:19:21 GMT -8
Bad swap for me. I'd much rather see Poison.
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Post by motleymexico on Dec 9, 2022 10:48:17 GMT -8
Bad swap for me. I'd much rather see Poison. Have you ever seen Alice?
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Post by edwardcreighton on Dec 9, 2022 14:48:00 GMT -8
Saw Alice this summer for first time, enjoyed it. One hour at 6pm is perfect.
Enjoyed Poison when saw them open for Lepps but Bret talked too much. Crowd liked it though.
Not sure will make huge difference as Alice has very good live reputation.
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Post by CindyJ on Dec 10, 2022 9:47:35 GMT -8
On his Planet Rock radio show, Joe just said Alice Cooper will be joining DL/MC for 10 shows in the US. Only 6 announced, so evidently 4 more to be announced.
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Post by slanged on Dec 10, 2022 10:38:38 GMT -8
So, if any bought tickets, how were the Def lep fan club seats? For Tulsa, they were the worst options for any pre sale ever for Def lep in my opinion. Now I have different seat opinions then most, but the Def lep, options were far more limited then any I have bought and I have used the fan club since it started.
Also, $161 in fees plus another $5 for 4 tickets was quite steep.
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Post by deef on Dec 11, 2022 12:32:29 GMT -8
I bought a couple tickets for the Fargo show, and I must say, wow it is getting difficult to buy concert tickets nowadays. I got my floor tickets, but it was a race against time & massive demand. Prices now for similar floor seats like mine, have quadrupled. Just glad I got a great price, though I feel bad for people who want floor seats, but don’t have the resources to pay $700/seat.
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Post by tsmith on Dec 12, 2022 5:21:54 GMT -8
Ticket buying is one of the worst experiences I can think of these days. The main problem is just resellers buying up all the good tickets as fast as they can to resell for profits. If you ask me, reselling above face value should be illegal and any sites that allow it should be shut down. IMO, that would curb a big chunk of the problem. It tried to get my daughter Taylor Swift tickets for a Christmas present and even had one of the super-select presale codes. Well, I was never even able to login to the ticketmaster site as I got stuck in a queue for hours and exeprienced all kinds of site technical issues. Then there was never even a general onsale as ticketmaster announced all tickets were sold during the presales. That absolutely boggles my mind that they would allow that to happen. However, if you look at the resale sites, there's tickets for sale all over the place with scalpers trying to sell seats for thousands of dollars. I honestly don't understand why activities like this are even legal. First off, Ticketmaster needs to be called out for being a monopoly as they basically corner the market on tickets to begin with and have many questionable practices. And it's just wrong what is allowed to happen in the secondary markets. Sorry for the rant but ticket buying is downright frustrating on many levels and there is very little transparency in the process with a lot of sketchy stuff going on behind the scenes I suspect. I bought a couple tickets for the Fargo show, and I must say, wow it is getting difficult to buy concert tickets nowadays. I got my floor tickets, but it was a race against time & massive demand. Prices now for similar floor seats like mine, have quadrupled. Just glad I got a great price, though I feel bad for people who want floor seats, but don’t have the resources to pay $700/seat.
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Post by wabowarrior on Dec 12, 2022 18:22:39 GMT -8
On his Planet Rock radio show, Joe just said Alice Cooper will be joining DL/MC for 10 shows in the US. Only 6 announced, so evidently 4 more to be announced. So, there's four stadium show markets in Florida. They did Miami, Orlando and Jacksonville last summer..... any chance they will play Tampa as one of those four yet o be announced? Okay... probably not, but a guy can dream! Would love to see Def Lep and Alice on the same bill.... and hopefully have Motley close so I can leave early.
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Post by andylgr on Dec 12, 2022 23:03:51 GMT -8
Ticket buying is one of the worst experiences I can think of these days. The main problem is just resellers buying up all the good tickets as fast as they can to resell for profits. If you ask me, reselling above face value should be illegal and any sites that allow it should be shut down. IMO, that would curb a big chunk of the problem. It tried to get my daughter Taylor Swift tickets for a Christmas present and even had one of the super-select presale codes. Well, I was never even able to login to the ticketmaster site as I got stuck in a queue for hours and exeprienced all kinds of site technical issues. Then there was never even a general onsale as ticketmaster announced all tickets were sold during the presales. That absolutely boggles my mind that they would allow that to happen. However, if you look at the resale sites, there's tickets for sale all over the place with scalpers trying to sell seats for thousands of dollars. I honestly don't understand why activities like this are even legal. First off, Ticketmaster needs to be called out for being a monopoly as they basically corner the market on tickets to begin with and have many questionable practices. And it's just wrong what is allowed to happen in the secondary markets. Sorry for the rant but ticket buying is downright frustrating on many levels and there is very little transparency in the process with a lot of sketchy stuff going on behind the scenes I suspect. For a brief time there was a crackdown on touts and being able to resell tickets online at a much higher value. This seems to have gone out of the window now and I don't think its a coincidence that the same ticket selling sites also have affiliated re-seller sites where they get yet more fees on top of the tickets that they originally sold first time round. I've experienced it 3 times over the last couple of months, it was a struggle to get Iron Maiden tickets yet within seconds they appeared on the re-seller sites. Clearly thats not genuine fans with a sudden genuine reason for not being able to go, its either touts quickly buying up the tickets and marking them up or its the actual ticket selling companies just dumping a load of them straight on to the second hand market at a higher price. Leps tickets were going up in price on the main ticketmaster site during the pre-sale due to their 'dynamic pricing' policy based on demand. Which to me is a very easy way to artificially inflate prices with a flaky excuse, but at that point they hadn't even hit general sale yet where you would think the real demand starts! On the other end of the scale I tried to get tickets for my mum to see Cliff Richard, I had no chance of getting general sale tickets because of his popularity and the fans pre-sale and they are now on the second hand sites for 4 times their original price. Its a mess for real fans and I doubt the ticket selling sites are in a rush to sort it as its making them money.
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Post by wabowarrior on Dec 13, 2022 11:09:10 GMT -8
Its a mess for real fans and I doubt the ticket selling sites are in a rush to sort it as its making them money. And that is the killer. The diehard fans are the ones who get screwed over because they actually buy their tickets in advance. Ticket costs $100.... but dynamic pricing jacks is up to $400.... but the diehard fan who is afraid of a sellout or not getting a good seat pays for it. Then, the week of the show, the resellers who can't get the outrageous prices they had been posting, start dropping it, and the day before or day of the show, tickets actually go below face value and they person sitting next to you paid $80 for what you dropped $400 for.
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Post by foolin3 on Dec 13, 2022 22:33:05 GMT -8
It is in fact the artist who chooses to make the tickets a set price or use dynamic pricing. Only way this will stop is if people stop buying the inflated tickets. Metallica just proved to me at least, that the artist can control it. $600 per seat for 8th row vip tickets for two shows in one weekend, that says a lot!!!!!!!!! Like all of us here I have run out and paid whatever Lep has asked for over the years, but I am done with seeing basically the same show every year for the prices they are charging now. Until the next tour of course. I bought a couple tickets for the Fargo show, and I must say, wow it is getting difficult to buy concert tickets nowadays. I got my floor tickets, but it was a race against time & massive demand. Prices now for similar floor seats like mine, have quadrupled. Just glad I got a great price, though I feel bad for people who want floor seats, but don’t have the resources to pay $700/seat.
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Post by tsmith on Dec 14, 2022 8:43:26 GMT -8
Ticketmaster and their antics are definitely impacting my decision to attend some shows simply because I don't want to deal with them and I'm getting tired having to shell out hundreds of dollars every time I want to attend a concert. I mean, it's getting tough to even attend a lot of things out there for less than $500 for two people and to me that's just silly. And honestly, most times it's more than that. I'm not talking just about concerts here though....Sporting events, broadways shows, etc are all getting in on the act. It definitely entered into my thinking for the Leppard show coming in Syracuse next summer as the prices are just getting nauseating. In looking at it, even the normal seats are like $175 before fees and they're not even that great of seats. And don't even get me started on Ticketmaster basically being their own scalper with all the "Official platinum seats". In looking at Syracuse, all kinds of great seats are either Official Platinum or VIP allocated seats. Prices never really made me pass on concerts in the past as I'd always go see who I wanted and would always try to get the best seats I could. But these days it's definitely entering into the equation. It's a lot of money to pay when you only want to see one band on the bill. If it were only Def Leppard playing, I'd happily pay those prices though lol. And now with this dynamic pricing in the mix it's just making things even worse. Its a mess for real fans and I doubt the ticket selling sites are in a rush to sort it as its making them money. And that is the killer. The diehard fans are the ones who get screwed over because they actually buy their tickets in advance. Ticket costs $100.... but dynamic pricing jacks is up to $400.... but the diehard fan who is afraid of a sellout or not getting a good seat pays for it. Then, the week of the show, the resellers who can't get the outrageous prices they had been posting, start dropping it, and the day before or day of the show, tickets actually go below face value and they person sitting next to you paid $80 for what you dropped $400 for.
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Post by CindyJ on Dec 15, 2022 7:00:51 GMT -8
Hellfest lineup announcement is today. Festival is June 15-18. Def Leppard tour schedule is currently empty June 15-17.
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Post by andylgr on Dec 15, 2022 10:17:27 GMT -8
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Post by biglep09 on Dec 15, 2022 10:18:42 GMT -8
Is Def Leppard headliner at any other festivals? Or is MC the only festival dates headliner
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Post by dflp83 on Dec 15, 2022 10:26:33 GMT -8
So WISH the US held a Hellfest here! 😡.
Rob
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Post by CindyJ on Dec 15, 2022 12:01:21 GMT -8
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Post by TurnToDust86 on Dec 15, 2022 12:09:38 GMT -8
Def Leppard & Alter Bridge, that's a good show.
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Post by edwardcreighton on Dec 15, 2022 14:01:49 GMT -8
The Cult are doing Hellfest would make a great addition to some of the UK shows. Cult have some classics, She Sells Sanctuary being timeless.
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Post by Shawn on Jan 2, 2023 8:55:47 GMT -8
Looks like Rick's Drum tech Jeff is back to work.
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Post by andylgr on Jan 4, 2023 22:31:33 GMT -8
Anyone looked at how well these shows are selling?
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Post by edwardcreighton on Jan 5, 2023 1:34:41 GMT -8
Indeed, I have! None of the 5 outdoor shows is selling well. In fact all look like they are selling very badly, whole sections without a single ticket being sold. Maybe one third tickets sold overall.
Fargo is an arena, looks better sales but still not great. 40% tickets sold?
Lot of people bought tickets to resell from looks of TM seating maps, going to be losing lots of money.
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Post by andylgr on Jan 5, 2023 3:21:37 GMT -8
Indeed, I have! None of the 5 outdoor shows is selling well. In fact all look like they are selling very badly, whole sections without a single ticket being sold. Maybe one third tickets sold overall. Fargo is an arena, looks better sales but still not great. 40% tickets sold? Lot of people bought tickets to resell from looks of TM seating maps, going to be losing lots of money. Interesting.... Pricing? Timing of the sale dates? People not interested in the bill? Were last years dates enough for the US? Maybe Poison were the main draw after all.
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Post by edwardcreighton on Jan 5, 2023 4:43:36 GMT -8
4 of the 5 outdoor venues are in smaller markets. Lot of platinum, re: expensive, tickets available.
Greater Syracuse has a population of nearly 700000 and is located within about 4 hours driving distance of Toronto, Montreal, Cleveland, Buffalo, New York City and Philadelphia. Maybe LN thinks people will drive up to 4 hours for the show. Tickets start at $70, $155 lower tier, back floor $212, cheapest at front $400. Then thousands for lotta tickets.
Omaha 1.1 million population, Nebraska about 2 million. Ticket prices start at $120, most in $165 range, floor starts about $200, then lots of platinum resale which in row 12 of section D costs $2500 for a ticket!
Greater El Paso is 850000. Ciudad Juarez in Mexico is close and has population of 1.35 million. Prices start at $60, on floor at back Platinum tickets going for $260 minimum.
Greater Tulsa has population of 750000, Oklahoma City 100 miles away, bigger population. Start $133, $250 on floor cheapest.
Columbus Ohio I thought would be a great venue for Lepps. Pop 2.1 million, middle of state, big city's close by, Ohio big state. This stadium is huge, think top tier not being used, capacity could 50000 for gig. Prices start at $133, on floor from $200.
Still 7 months to shows but off to a slow start. Dynamic pricing to be exploited soonest.
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Post by andylgr on Jan 5, 2023 5:19:08 GMT -8
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Post by tsmith on Jan 5, 2023 5:41:56 GMT -8
Funny you mention Syracuse as that's the show I've been watching myself and had noticed how poorly it seemed to be selling. There's a lot of good seats available....but they're all mostly pricy as well. I just really think it's the cost and the sheer number of seats that are marked as platinum or VIP. And if they aren't one of those two things, it's resellers trying to mark up seats for huge costs. I've looked at it a few times debating if I want to go or not. Personally, I just saw this tour last August in Buffalo and for me, that was a better version of the tour as I'd much rather see Poison and Joan Jett than Alice Cooper. Yet, the prices are even more expensive this time around when Leppard is the only band I'd want to see. It's just tough to justify paying around $500 for a couple decent seats to see what for me is a lesser version of something I recently saw. Yeah, I could probably sit in nosebleeds for cheap but I'd rather stay home than sit in nosebleed seats. I have to say too that part of it for me is that I'm just really irritated with Ticketmaster. I was part of the whole Taylor Swift debacle as I was trying to get my daughter tickets to a show for Christmas and was never able to despite even having a verified fan presale code. I wasted many hours of my time waiting in queues and getting site crashes. That whole experience left a very bad taste in my mouth and I'm just tired of Ticketmaster's games. So for me it's a mixture of it being a bill that's just not that interesting, high prices and being disenchanted with ticketmaster in general. That said though, I suspect it'll sell better as time goes on and prices are lowered as it gets closer to the show. I plan to keep watching it and maybe will get tickets at some point if some seats turn up at a price I can't resist 4 of the 5 outdoor venues are in smaller markets. Lot of platinum, re: expensive, tickets available. Greater Syracuse has a population of nearly 700000 and is located within about 4 hours driving distance of Toronto, Montreal, Cleveland, Buffalo, New York City and Philadelphia. Maybe LN thinks people will drive up to 4 hours for the show. Tickets start at $70, $155 lower tier, back floor $212, cheapest at front $400. Then thousands for lotta tickets. Omaha 1.1 million population, Nebraska about 2 million. Ticket prices start at $120, most in $165 range, floor starts about $200, then lots of platinum resale which in row 12 of section D costs $2500 for a ticket! Greater El Paso is 850000. Ciudad Juarez in Mexico is close and has population of 1.35 million. Prices start at $60, on floor at back Platinum tickets going for $260 minimum. Greater Tulsa has population of 750000, Oklahoma City 100 miles away, bigger population. Start $133, $250 on floor cheapest. Columbus Ohio I thought would be a great venue for Lepps. Pop 2.1 million, middle of state, big city's close by, Ohio big state. This stadium is huge, think top tier not being used, capacity could 50000 for gig. Prices start at $133, on floor from $200. Still 7 months to shows but off to a slow start. Dynamic pricing to be exploited soonest.
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Post by edwardcreighton on Jan 5, 2023 6:12:21 GMT -8
Best wishes tsmith with getting cheaper tickets. Prices can't go up for ever especially as many economies are slowing and post covid sales bumps are maybe over.
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Post by CindyJ on Jan 9, 2023 7:24:09 GMT -8
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Post by CindyJ on Jan 11, 2023 19:15:38 GMT -8
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Post by lovelightning on Jan 26, 2023 11:24:42 GMT -8
We’re going to the Hollywood, FL show at Hard Rock Live! Backyard show, we have to!!!
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