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Post by CindyJ on Jul 21, 2022 18:58:29 GMT -8
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Post by savagegroove on Jul 21, 2022 18:58:39 GMT -8
If they are ending at 11pm EST, what time did the show start? 2:30 MT?? Leppard isn't the closer. Still have MC to go. Will end at 1AM ET. Ohhh. Thank you. That makes better sense now. |
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Post by CindyJ on Jul 21, 2022 19:30:45 GMT -8
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Post by deaf_leopard on Jul 21, 2022 21:05:16 GMT -8
Def Leppard was just plaim awesome tonite.
Poison got a great reception, but i get the feeling that a stadium is a notch too big for them. 50mim set with guitar solo, drum solo and Bret talking for another 10mins. Thats close to 40% of their set right there. Strange use of time!!!
Motley Crue got a good reception for sure, but i feel they lack the right songs for stadiums aswell. Vince was good enough imo and i love their music.
But how MC get to close any of these shows is something i just dont understand. Even thou im biased for sure 😂
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Post by andylgr on Jul 21, 2022 22:14:22 GMT -8
Poison got a great reception, but i get the feeling that a stadium is a notch too big for them. 50mim set with guitar solo, drum solo and Bret talking for another 10mins. Thats close to 40% of their set right there. Strange use of time!!! Poison have more than enough songs to fill a 50 minute set, but they seem to stick that core of songs thats served them well as a support band for years now. Its all a bit lazy IMO. Not sure how familiar anyone is with their material but their opening track frustrates me, they use the intro to Valley of Lost Souls but instead go into Look What the Cat Dragged In. Heres Strange Days of Uncle Jack / Valley of Lost Souls with the intro that they use live, this was the opening salvo of their Flesh and Blood album..... I rate this song and always hope they play it as the opener. |
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Post by deaf_leopard on Jul 21, 2022 23:04:14 GMT -8
Poison got a great reception, but i get the feeling that a stadium is a notch too big for them. 50mim set with guitar solo, drum solo and Bret talking for another 10mins. Thats close to 40% of their set right there. Strange use of time!!! Poison have more than enough songs to fill a 50 minute set, but they seem to stick that core of songs thats served them well as a support band for years now. Its all a bit lazy IMO. Not sure how familiar anyone is with their material but their opening track frustrates me, they use the intro to Valley of Lost Souls but instead go into Look What the Cat Dragged In. Heres Strange Days of Uncle Jack / Valley of Lost Souls with the intro that they use live, this was the opening salvo of their Flesh and Blood album..... I rate this song and always hope they play it as the opener. Definetly more than enough songs for 50mims. Songs like Something to believe in, cry tough, unskinny bop, i wont forget you could have easily been played if they organised their set better. Saw them open for DL in Vegas in 2009 and they were great that time. |
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Post by andylgr on Jul 21, 2022 23:41:24 GMT -8
Definetly more than enough songs for 50mims. Songs like Something to believe in, cry tough, unskinny bop, i wont forget you could have easily been played if they organised their set better. Saw them open for DL in Vegas in 2009 and they were great that time. Stand is another one too. They didn't play Unskinny Bop? |
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Post by CindyJ on Jul 22, 2022 6:48:38 GMT -8
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Post by wabowarrior on Jul 22, 2022 8:03:47 GMT -8
I'm not surprised by Poison's song selection for the tour at all. They don't see this as their tour, so they are busting out the well-known classics and, IMO, planting the seed that "Hey, Poison are great live, I should check them out when they come back around."
And I know a lot of people have commented on the guitar and drum solos, but given Rikki and Bret's health issues, it might be a necessity for them to have those short breaks, even in a 50 minute set.
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Post by deaf_leopard on Jul 22, 2022 8:19:02 GMT -8
Definetly more than enough songs for 50mims. Songs like Something to believe in, cry tough, unskinny bop, i wont forget you could have easily been played if they organised their set better. Saw them open for DL in Vegas in 2009 and they were great that time. Stand is another one too. They didn't play Unskinny Bop? Stand is great too. Unskinny bop was played. Unskinny bop not being played highlights their lack of proper planning imo. |
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Post by TurnToDust86 on Jul 22, 2022 8:26:26 GMT -8
Before Bret’s health issue, Poison was doing 9 songs plus the guitar/drum solos. Since then, they’ve been doing 7 songs plus the guitar/drum solos. Plus plenty of banter from Bret to waste more time. Even without the health issues, their opening sets, solos, and banter have been nearly identical every time I’ve seen them dating back to 2009. Running order has been nearly identical too. They don’t stray from it nor do they want to. Even at their recent headline shows between stadium shows, they are topping out at a whopping 10 songs while adding a bass solo. I’ve seen Poison 14 times and only seen them play 11 different songs, with two of those only being played once. But I’ve seen 14 drum and guitar solos. www.setlist.fm/songs/TurnToDust86?artist=73d6aa2d |
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Post by deaf_leopard on Jul 22, 2022 8:27:19 GMT -8
I'm not surprised by Poison's song selection for the tour at all. They don't see this as their tour, so they are busting out the well-known classics and, IMO, planting the seed that "Hey, Poison are great live, I should check them out when they come back around." And I know a lot of people have commented on the guitar and drum solos, but given Rikki and Bret's health issues, it might be a necessity for them to have those short breaks, even in a 50 minute set. Not suprised, just find it strange. But their health issues could certainly play a part regarding the solo sections. I havent seen Poison that many times, but Bret likes to talk alot. Just feel that in a 50mim set he talks away adding more aongs. |
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Post by deaf_leopard on Jul 22, 2022 8:30:18 GMT -8
Even at their recent headline shows between stadium shows, they are topping out at a whopping 10 songs while adding a bass solo. 10 songs in a headlining show? And we sometimes complainabout DLs short sets 😂 |
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Post by costillamed6 on Jul 22, 2022 10:04:12 GMT -8
Leppard was amazing, never disappointed with thier shows. Thier mix was was great and vocals on point.
The closing act on the other hand, all I can say is GOOD LORD THAT WAS DREADFUL! I looked around and tons of people on the floor sitting, in the stands they were sitting. I thought we were going to beat traffic and boy was I wrong! There was A LOT of people leaving the stadium. All had the same comment, "Vince has no business up there closing the show".
Poison always good. Bret is a showman, CC is a certified rock star. But there was some type of disconnect between CC and Bret. Bret kept telling CC to go to the front of the stage for his solos.
Unfortunately, missed Joan Jett but heard her from the concourse and she sounded good.
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Post by wabowarrior on Jul 22, 2022 10:09:00 GMT -8
Even at their recent headline shows between stadium shows, they are topping out at a whopping 10 songs while adding a bass solo. 10 songs in a headlining show? And we sometimes complainabout DLs short sets 😂 Now, that is strange. Back when they were coming around every summer, they were doing 14-15 songs (not including the guitar and drum solos). |
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Post by CindyJ on Jul 22, 2022 18:26:06 GMT -8
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Post by CindyJ on Jul 22, 2022 18:26:30 GMT -8
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Post by cal on Jul 22, 2022 21:20:03 GMT -8
Poison got a great reception, but i get the feeling that a stadium is a notch too big for them. 50mim set with guitar solo, drum solo and Bret talking for another 10mins. Thats close to 40% of their set right there. Strange use of time!!! Poison have more than enough songs to fill a 50 minute set, but they seem to stick that core of songs thats served them well as a support band for years now. Its all a bit lazy IMO. Not sure how familiar anyone is with their material but their opening track frustrates me, they use the intro to Valley of Lost Souls but instead go into Look What the Cat Dragged In. Heres Strange Days of Uncle Jack / Valley of Lost Souls with the intro that they use live, this was the opening salvo of their Flesh and Blood album..... I rate this song and always hope they play it as the opener. Agreed! 'Valley of Lost Souls' (and its very cool introduction) would be a perfect opener - definitely my fav Poison track by a mile. I think they've always played brief sets, even when headlining back in the 80s. A friend of mine recalled seeing them on their only Australian tour back in 1989. The Arena in Brisbane is very far from the city centre (thankfully they are building a new one in the CBD for the Olympics) and after driving for 90 minutes he saw a 60 min headline set, then battled traffic home. 60 minutes hardly seems worth the effort! |
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Post by andylgr on Jul 23, 2022 0:25:49 GMT -8
Before Bret’s health issue, Poison was doing 9 songs plus the guitar/drum solos. Since then, they’ve been doing 7 songs plus the guitar/drum solos. Plus plenty of banter from Bret to waste more time. Even without the health issues, their opening sets, solos, and banter have been nearly identical every time I’ve seen them dating back to 2009. Running order has been nearly identical too. They don’t stray from it nor do they want to. Even at their recent headline shows between stadium shows, they are topping out at a whopping 10 songs while adding a bass solo. I’ve seen Poison 14 times and only seen them play 11 different songs, with two of those only being played once. But I’ve seen 14 drum and guitar solos. www.setlist.fm/songs/TurnToDust86?artist=73d6aa2dImagine that out there somewhere is a die hard community of Poison fans and then imagine their setlist discussion threads. |
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Post by Jefflep on Jul 23, 2022 6:21:52 GMT -8
My head just exploded with laughter! You are so right! 🤣 Poison could headline theaters or close out a B-list 80s package in some arenas or amphitheaters if they wanted to. But this tour elevates them in a lot of minds maybe. Before Bret’s health issue, Poison was doing 9 songs plus the guitar/drum solos. Since then, they’ve been doing 7 songs plus the guitar/drum solos. Plus plenty of banter from Bret to waste more time. Even without the health issues, their opening sets, solos, and banter have been nearly identical every time I’ve seen them dating back to 2009. Running order has been nearly identical too. They don’t stray from it nor do they want to. Even at their recent headline shows between stadium shows, they are topping out at a whopping 10 songs while adding a bass solo. I’ve seen Poison 14 times and only seen them play 11 different songs, with two of those only being played once. But I’ve seen 14 drum and guitar solos. www.setlist.fm/songs/TurnToDust86?artist=73d6aa2dImagine that out there somewhere is a die hard community of Poison fans and then imagine their setlist discussion threads. |
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Post by tsmith on Jul 23, 2022 10:45:27 GMT -8
You guys are so right. Poison is a band that sort of went the opposite direction as Leppard. I mean, these guys were huge in the late 80s and early 90s and were headliners. Somewhere along the line, they basically gave up and became happy to be an 8-10 song opening act. I feel like they're a band that definitely left some meat on the bone and never really reached the heights they could've with a little more desire and focus. My head just exploded with laughter! You are so right! 🤣 Poison could headline theaters or close out a B-list 80s package in some arenas or amphitheaters if they wanted to. But this tour elevates them in a lot of minds maybe. Imagine that out there somewhere is a die hard community of Poison fans and then imagine their setlist discussion threads. |
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